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Javi Sanchez - Liability?
Posted on 5/31/09 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 5/31/09 at 10:23 pm
a few bang bang plays over the weekend trying to stretch the bases. But he sent 2 guys home today that were not even close. Does anyone else see this as an issue.
Posted on 5/31/09 at 10:25 pm to TheEye
I'd much rather be agressive on the bases than not. Especially in college and high school, make the other team make a play, because a lot of the time, they won't.
That said, I wouldn't have sent the two guys home today.
That said, I wouldn't have sent the two guys home today.
This post was edited on 5/31/09 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 5/31/09 at 10:26 pm to TheEye
first one was jared mitchell running on a ball schimpf put out in the corner, i think anyone would have waived him, minnesota's guys just made a great relay.
DJ should have been held up though without a doubt, but that was a great throw by their LF
DJ should have been held up though without a doubt, but that was a great throw by their LF
Posted on 5/31/09 at 10:28 pm to TheEye
FWIW, both of the throws were spot on. The first one was a relay that had Mitchell nailed. LeMahieu got tagged the second time, but the left fielder threw a bullet to the catcher, chest high. DJ had no shot. I would think the competition from here on out would be just as good. Maybe Javi will be more conservative from here on out. We did have a 5/8 run lead each time he sent them though.
This post was edited on 5/31/09 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 5/31/09 at 10:29 pm to TheEye
yes he sucks, i believe he should be replaced with one of the rantards who could most definitely do a better job. on a serious note i like the agressive baserunning lsu plays.
Posted on 5/31/09 at 10:30 pm to TheEye
It is Mainieri's style. He wants a very agressive team that constantly puts the other team to the test. This team has won 49 games by almost constantly challenging its opponents to make plays. I would say that he has done all right with that strategy.
(It has nothing to do with Sanchez.)
(It has nothing to do with Sanchez.)
Posted on 5/31/09 at 10:31 pm to TheEye
I sit down the left field line. The left fielder had the ball in his glove before DJ touched third base. That was an error by Sanchez. I am ok with sending J Mitch.
Posted on 5/31/09 at 10:32 pm to JPLSU1981
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I'd much rather be agressive on the bases than not. Especially in college and high school, make the other team make a play, because a lot of the time, they won't.
Well said.
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That said, I wouldn't have sent the two guys home today
I would have sent Mitchell...but the second one was a horrible decision. The entire stadium let out a moan when they saw him get the green light...the whole park knew he would be out by 15 feet.
Posted on 5/31/09 at 10:35 pm to MidCityTiger
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It is Mainieri's style. He wants a very agressive team that constantly puts the other team to the test. This team has won 49 games by almost constantly challenging its opponents to make plays. I would say that he has done all right with that strategy.
Well said by you, too. Hanagriff made the point on the radio that the aggressive style must work way more than it doesn't work, and you know how we all know it works? We lead the nation in wins.
Posted on 5/31/09 at 10:43 pm to Tigrus Maximus
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We did have a 5/8 run lead each time he sent them though.
if he sends DJ in that situation in a 1-1 pitchers duel in the 8th, we have a problem...in this case it wasn't a bad call, put the pressure on the D to make the play
Posted on 5/31/09 at 10:52 pm to ForeLSU
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if he sends DJ in that situation in a 1-1 pitchers duel in the 8th, we have a riot
Posted on 5/31/09 at 11:07 pm to TheEye
Aggressive base running is good when it's late in a game and you need runs. That was not the case tonight. I think JS has been taking a few too many unnecessary risks.
Posted on 5/31/09 at 11:23 pm to tss22h8
Both of the plays were on the back of perfect awesome throws to the infield. I believe both plays were with two outs.
With two outs and a decent to great lead, you send the runner home and force the guy(s) to make perfect throws.
With two outs and a decent to great lead, you send the runner home and force the guy(s) to make perfect throws.
Posted on 5/31/09 at 11:25 pm to tss22h8
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Aggressive base running is good when it's late in a game and you need runs. That was not the case tonight. I think JS has been taking a few too many unnecessary risks.
It isn't a "risk" when you are up 4+, with two outs, and a throw off the line at all means a safe runner. The guys were only out by what appeared to be a significant margin because of perfect throws to the infield and a very nice relay to the plate.
Posted on 5/31/09 at 11:31 pm to TheEye
he needs to be coaching at BRCC
Posted on 6/1/09 at 1:03 am to Tigercat
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It isn't a "risk" when you are up 4+, with two outs, and a throw off the line at all means a safe runner.
I didn't see the plays but having two outs does affect how aggressive one should be in sending a runner home (as well as the score and who's up next). What if he had held the runners at 3rd but the next batter stuck out stranding them at third? I am guessing a lot of people would then be complaining that he should have sent the runners.
Bottom line is, sending the runner home with 2 outs may very well be your best shot at getting them home. If the other team makes a great play and gets them out, well hats off to them, but personally, I am all for being aggressive and forcing the action.
Posted on 6/1/09 at 5:39 am to TIGERPIP317
If Rice comes to Baton Rouge for the super regional, it would be great if someone would ask Wayne Graham about his philosophy of baserunning. He talked about it during the 2005 super regional at Tulane, and he said most of the time you have to be aggressive and force the defense to make the play. At the college level, more often than not, the defense won't make the play.
Posted on 6/1/09 at 5:54 am to Carl Dubois
i agree we need to be aggressive and force a college kid to make the play. I just dont think the dj call was the time to do it. the ball was hit to left and the lf had the ball in plenty of time. also we were having no problems crushing the current pitcher so no need to be overly aggressive.
I do like the style though and it has lead to extra bases and alot of wins but when we have players get gunned out by 20 feet it looks bad.
I do like the style though and it has lead to extra bases and alot of wins but when we have players get gunned out by 20 feet it looks bad.
Posted on 6/1/09 at 7:11 am to TheEye
At least he sent Jared this time.. Most of the time he holds Jared up at third but would send a player like Micah.. Thats where you want to beat your head..
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