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re: Jarvis Landry possibility of returning next season.

Posted on 12/17/13 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13814 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 4:01 pm to
I get where people are saying he won't gain anything. But he could go down as one of the best Tigers ever and graduate.

That would be important to me, although I would probably leave.
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
15531 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 4:01 pm to
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return sediment


i thought it was more return igneous or return metamorphic
Posted by 81Tiger
LSU Alumnus
Member since Sep 2009
6828 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 4:22 pm to
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return sediment


quote:

i thought it was more return igneous or return metamorphic


It's that pesky iPhone geology spell checker again.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59433 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 4:23 pm to
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out of all the people that could come back, he is the one id like to see back the most.


double kige
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 4:30 pm to
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I keep seeing this in regards to Landry and Beckham, but I just don't see it. I mean don't get me wrong, these guys are damn good, but it's not like it would be unprecedented for a good WR to stay for a senior year. If they go they are almost certain to be the lowest and second lowest drafted LSU early declarents ever at the WR position.


taken in the top 3 rounds? at least one of them probably sneaks into the first.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 4:38 pm to
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This is the case when you assume everyone is 100% motivated by money.

Actually, even if you are motivated solely by money, leaving early is not always a good idea. The big money is the second contract and the way to get a second deal is to perform well in your first. The NFL is often unfair and players drafted later just don't get a full shot to make the lineup, or even the team. Getting drafted in the 3rd round or later makes it that much more likely you never get the next deal.

This rash of leaving early automatically means more money is just misguided thinking. I know we love Jarvis, but he wasn't even 1st team All-SEC yet we think he's gonna be a 1st round pick? Ask Sam Montgomery or Tharold Simon if leaving early makes economic sense.
Posted by studentsect
Member since Jan 2004
2295 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 5:17 pm to
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taken in the top 3 rounds? at least one of them probably sneaks into the first.


Possibly, but mid-to-late second or later would still make them worse off than any of the others who have declared early. Neither is a better pro prospect than Josh Reed, Michael Clayton or Reuban Randle, who are the three that have left, and I would argue that Lafell and Bowe were better NFL prospects and they both came back.

I'm not saying they would be stupid to leave or anything, especially with their QB graduating. I'm just saying that historically, WRs of their caliber at LSU have been more likely to stay than go.

Maybe I'm dumb and last year we reached a turning point and from here on out we should just expect the bar to get lower and lower. But I'm old enough to remember back in 2011 when guys projected in the third round or worse weren't considered obviously gone. (This is more directed at some other guys than Beckham and Landry, as I do expect those two to have successful NFL careers whether those careers start in 2014 or 2015)
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 5:26 pm to
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From a professional standpoint, he stands to gain little to nothing by coming back


championship !!!!
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48081 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 7:56 pm to
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out of all the people that could come back, he is the one id like to see back the most.

This^

I love this guys attitude as well as his unquestioned dedication and unparalleled talent.

Best receiver I have ever seen at LSU.
Posted by Slinger16
Not Louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
21900 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 7:59 pm to
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Tharold Simon


Blows my mind that he left early.
Posted by rebelfan86
Houma, LA
Member since Nov 2012
11 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:05 pm to
That's not a very logical point in my book. He could also leave and get hurt before he even touches a NFL Football Field and never gets any money. He could also come back to LSU and get hurt but he'll have his degree to fall back on if so. That's how I see it. Not wishing any bad luck on JL just being real!
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26321 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 8:16 pm to
It ALL has to do with priorities.

98% of football players are after the money. This isn't an indictment, as there is absolutely nothing wrong with earning a living. But a few have other goals. Some would say higher goals. A degree is one example, a national championship is another.

People speculate on the draft stock aspect of the issue but I think a player staying almost always has more to do with other goals and mindset. Some aren't afraid of getting hurt and missing out on a pro career.
Posted by BigJake
Baton rouge
Member since Jan 2006
1535 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:47 pm to
He seems like the kind of guy that would remember the bitterness of ending an awesome freshman year with 1/9 and 21-0 and want to come back to make that right.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:42 am to
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I wouldn't be happy if he came back.


What a retarded comment. What if he wanted to come back for personal reasons?
Posted by Mack
Member since Nov 2013
827 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:44 am to
1/1000
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 9:09 am to
If he were to come back the University and football program will be much benefited. And I sure hope he comes back. I would much more rather have him than the "troubled athlete" in JC any day. J.L. is a fine human being and the most dependable receiver I've ever seen at LSU. He brings all the good qualities that I would hope any representative of our school should have. He could make the difference between a good year vs. a run for the West. He would be the glue of the offense! jmho
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 9:17 am to
U guy's are wining about our inexperience QB next year. U will be surprised after about 3 games under his belt. He is the real deal!
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216143 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 9:17 am to
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Actually, even if you are motivated solely by money, leaving early is not always a good idea



Well to be fair there are a lot of kids that come from single mother homes and poverty and THAT money guides their thinking... When you have nothing and those BIG $$$$$ are staring at yo... education is an afterthought. I don't think this is the case for JL... I can see him coming back......
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216143 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 9:18 am to
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Best receiver I have ever seen at LSU.




WHOA!!!!!!!! He is very very good....BUT.........
Posted by MrPackSix
Lakeview/God's Country
Member since Oct 2009
8220 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 9:20 am to
I would love it if he came back. However its not likely and with how short the career is of today's NFL player I wouldn't blame him for leaving
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