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re: Jarrett Lee and Matthew Stafford
Posted on 10/13/09 at 6:01 pm to DestrehanTiger
Posted on 10/13/09 at 6:01 pm to DestrehanTiger
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There is a bit of a difference there. Also, Stafford was a much higher rated QB coming out of high school. Lee could turn it around like Stafford did, but it will be harder for him considering he doesn't have the same physical tools.
If the 08 defense had played as well as the 09, I doubt we would be having this discussion. If you depend on a freshman quarterback to outscore the opposition bad things usually happen.
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Posted on 10/13/09 at 6:03 pm to roygu
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If the 08 defense had played as well as the 09, I doubt we would be having this discussion.
Correct. Further the vast majority of what they asked JLee to do, he did very very well.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 6:12 pm to specs1
Just let JL play a couple of series, lets see what he can do. If it doesn't work, then put him back on the shelf and start working RS in for a series or 2 and let him get GAMETIME experience for when JJ is gone ( this lack of experience is what has killed us the last 2 years).
JJ's inexperience may or may not be the biggest problem, It may be the OL or OC, but let's at least throw the dang ball and see what happens. Our D is much better than last year.
If you don't want to play JL at least start off the 1st series w/ a huddle every play and see how much better the O performs.
JJ's inexperience may or may not be the biggest problem, It may be the OL or OC, but let's at least throw the dang ball and see what happens. Our D is much better than last year.
If you don't want to play JL at least start off the 1st series w/ a huddle every play and see how much better the O performs.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 6:43 pm to Tomm
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Wow, do you enjoy comparing apples and oranges? First, Stafford was a TR FR while Pick 6 was a RS FR. Second, Stafford's bad portion of the year was the first part of the season...he actually improved...Pick 6 showed no noticeable improvement...in fact as the competition got tougher, teams started returning his passes for TDs. Next!!
Yep, no doubt about it. Your name is definitely Tommy Jefferson. To call a young man "Pick 6" is definitely inexcusable. So my turn, you are a prick.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 6:46 pm to magicman0001
Shut up.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 6:48 pm to hacanms
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hacanms
..boy are you EVER right, he even gives himself "cheers" in a post immediately following his rant! 
Posted on 10/13/09 at 6:48 pm to hacanms
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Tomm is a prick
Finally a point we don't have to debate!
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:02 pm to Icansee4miles
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Tomm is a prick
and a douchebag who thinks he knows everything about football and makes it a point to remind you that you don't know shite if you disagree with him.
kinda reminds me of SFP, but way more of a prick when he flames. SFP at least has some self control.....Tomm just can't help himself.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:04 pm to grif82
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and a douchebag who thinks he knows everything about football and makes it a point to remind you that you don't know shite if you disagree with him.
I find no inaccuracies in this statement.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:14 pm to specs1
Why is it jl supporters when faced with facts can only name call?
Tomm you made some good points.
However, when you have 2 qbs that were rated pretty highly coming out of highschool (both 4 stars), and they both digress, it's a coaching problem.
I think maybe both would have suceeded had they been coached properly.
Have you noticed how the Bama QB's every year seem to preform.
Their current qb did not have that much exp..
I don't think he started a game!
Tomm you made some good points.
However, when you have 2 qbs that were rated pretty highly coming out of highschool (both 4 stars), and they both digress, it's a coaching problem.
I think maybe both would have suceeded had they been coached properly.
Have you noticed how the Bama QB's every year seem to preform.
Their current qb did not have that much exp..
I don't think he started a game!
This post was edited on 10/13/09 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:19 pm to gotygers
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faced with facts
Like being ranked 109 in offense?
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:25 pm to specs1
spec1 you think its all the qbs fault we are ranked so low.
What about the oline?
What about the oline?
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:29 pm to gotygers
When 2 talented qbs digress it's coaching.
Both JJ and JL would have preformed much better at okl or texas had they been starters.
Both JJ and JL would have preformed much better at okl or texas had they been starters.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 8:30 pm to gotygers
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spec1 you think its all the qbs fault we are ranked so low.
Absolutely not. In fact in earlier posts I pointed out that if Jefferson is their guy, they should totally commit to the spread and let him run it. He ran it very well in high school and seems to thrive in that system.
However, like it or not JL's offense last year was much better. So, if JL was inserted would this offense improve? Don't know, but at this point we need to find out.
I have nothing against Jefferson. He's an LSU guy and when he is in there I'm pulling for him. However, he is struggling and not moving the offense. Lee did move the offense.
Also, w/ a true pro style QB back there who has better pocket presence, would the o-line look a lot better? Well there's at least that possibility. I don't think anyone here on this board wants to cast aside Jefferson. They like me simply want to see what the other guys can do this year. It may be to our best interest to use both.
What I know for sure is that being ranked 109 on offense will lead to several more losses this year.
BTW, you may have a point about 2 different highly rated qb's digressing and where that responsibility lies.
This post was edited on 10/13/09 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 11:52 pm to specs1
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spec1 you think its all the qbs fault we are ranked so low.
Absolutely not. In fact in earlier posts I pointed out that if Jefferson is their guy, they should totally commit to the spread and let him run it. He ran it very well in high school and seems to thrive in that system.
However, like it or not JL's offense last year was much better. So, if JL was inserted would this offense improve? Don't know, but at this point we need to find out.
I have nothing against Jefferson. He's an LSU guy and when he is in there I'm pulling for him. However, he is struggling and not moving the offense. Lee did move the offense.
Also, w/ a true pro style QB back there who has better pocket presence, would the o-line look a lot better? Well there's at least that possibility. I don't think anyone here on this board wants to cast aside Jefferson. They like me simply want to see what the other guys can do this year. It may be to our best interest to use both.
What I know for sure is that being ranked 109 on offense will lead to several more losses this year.
BTW, you may have a point about 2 different highly rated qb's digressing and where that responsibility lies.
Great post specs! Well thought out without any hateful diatribe and no slamming of the players. Definitely need more thoughtful posts like this. Thanks!!
Posted on 10/13/09 at 11:55 pm to Icansee4miles
You are an idiot! Wow, that was great banter wasn't it, Einstein? 
Posted on 10/13/09 at 11:56 pm to specs1
I don't believe that the LSU coaching staff asked Jarrett Lee to throw an NCAA record number of INTs for TDs? I could be wrong!
Posted on 10/13/09 at 11:58 pm to hacanms
That is what he earned. Setting an NCAA record for the most number of INTs returned for TDs is what he did. I didn't make that up. And BTW, posters have called Jefferson "a failure" and "a miserable QB". But hey, I guess that is fine with you, huh hypocrite?
Posted on 10/13/09 at 11:59 pm to grif82
There is the guy who never met a post of his he didn't think should be posted. Too bad only the other losers think your posts are worth squat!
Posted on 10/13/09 at 11:59 pm to TigerBandAlumnus82
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I've been making the Stafford/Bradford/ McCoy "freshman to sophmore" improvement comparison for the past month.
and I keep asking why you bring McCoy and Bradford into this? they had 2 of the best freshman seasons for QBs EVER. hell Colt's TDs went down and his INTs went up from his fr. to soph seasons. why do you keep using them in this comparison?
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