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re: It’s more than a head coach in hoops, look at Dale Brown.

Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:32 am to
Posted by QB
Louisiana
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:32 am to
there are a lot of aspects to coaching any sport at the collegiate level, and certainly Dale was good a some of those aspects. However, it is factual that DB was an awful x's and o's coach. He is the only coach I have ever heard of that lost a game when LSU was up by one point, with the ball out of bounds, with two timeouts left, and LSU lost in regulation. That takes some major league incompetence, but Dale pulled it off.
I don't think LSU has had an excellent, well rounded head basketball coach in my lifetime, but Dale had the most success.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18706 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 5:18 pm to
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There's no probably no Rudy Macklin at LSU without Ron Abernathy, who was Macklin's high school coach in Louisville.

One of Dale's best recruiting tricks was hiring the high school coach of a standout player. Abernathy, Rick Huckaby (Howard Carter), Jim Childers (Stanley Roberts), just to name a few.


Derrick Taylor/Gary Duhe.

Don Devoe at Tennessee at one point called it unethical....to which Dale responded "so is divorce" - Devoe of course had just recently divorced before Dale's comment.

Dale had his faults and I will always have my issues with aspects of his coaching tenure and his lingering involvement on the periphery of the program after his coaching days - but he was never boring.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 5:23 pm to
Fake news
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9143 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 5:31 pm to
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That game was Huckabay vs Knight in XO and game coaching and Knight was better
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That game was lost at the end of the first half when Dale (or Huckabay if you want) decided to freeze the last couple minutes of the first half (this was before the shot clock was instituted) despite Isiah Thomas being out of the game with three fouls. Indiana’s best player was in foul trouble and we sat on the ball for the last couple of minutes. It was absolute coaching malpractice. Now having said that, Dale flat outcoached Knight in 1987 while getting absolutely robbed by the refs out of a final four trip to New Orleans. Dale was the ultimate roller coaster ride as a coach. Some incredible over achieving teams and definitely some horribly underachieving teams. But like it was said earlier, never boring.
This post was edited on 3/14/26 at 5:35 pm
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3317 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 5:43 pm to
Correct on both points LSUGrad88
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
30760 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:45 pm to
He fricking bought a player from Louisville KY. And then bought a ton more.
That’s how you win
Posted by airbornetiger
SATX
Member since Sep 2006
1515 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:01 pm to
Did you watch those guys play that season. Shaq was big. Stanley was big and lazy. CJ was the glue. It wasn’t like they were a fine tuned machine—And weren’t they only together for 1-year—with that season being Shaq and Stanley’s first playing year with LSU.

Post like these are dumb because they are built off of what these players later accomplished (mainly CJ and Shaq) in their careers and not based off the reality of 1889-1990.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
15875 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:03 pm to
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He had Jack Schalow, Tex Winters, then Homer Drew, then Rick Huckabay, and later Gary Duhe.
is there some reason you didn't mention DB's TOP TWO Assistants of his coaching tenure?

ART TOLIS and RON ABERNATHY.

I really miss great basketball at LSU that was the equal of football in excitement and fan interest!
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
8477 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:10 pm to
I should have included that there was only 1 second left in the game.
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
7652 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:15 pm to
Together for one year , correct. Fab 5 almost won it all with freshmen. That's coaching, pal. Yes, i saw every home game in person, and watched every road game on TV. They should've been at least to the F8 that year, but Nobody was beating UNLV that year. Lsu did beat them by a few points, due to Augmon being suspended. He plays, they won by 20 easy.
Posted by Heyes
Baton. Rouge
Member since Jul 2013
813 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:08 pm to
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Overrated coach. Could win with no talent, terrible coaching, with talent. See 1981 F4. No way that team should've laid an egg in Philly. He stayed at lsu about 5 years too late. Should've been immediately fired after blowing that lead to UK on Mardi Gras.


Add up the entire 1981 teams nba years and you see they really didn’t have the talent you think they had. Macklin three years and was marginal in the nba. Tree Green … 1 year Leonard Mitchell none. Ethan Martin and Willie Sims - none Howard Carter. 1 and a half. Marginal.

Isiah Thomas. Hall of famer. And Landon turner who would have been a great nba player but was paralyzed in car wreck.

I actually think Dale was a better x and o coach than he is given credit for but not quite as good a recruiter. We had one legitimate nba great. Shaq. That’s it. And in college Shaq was an offensive liability until his last year
Chris Jackson was marginal. Jerry Reynolds started 41 games in his entire nba career Ricky Blanton was called by espn , the worst nba player ever John” hot plate “ Williams was a bust . Stanley Robert’s was marginal

Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18706 posts
Posted on 3/15/26 at 7:28 am to
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That game was lost at the end of the first half when Dale (or Huckabay if you want) decided to freeze the last couple minutes of the first half (this was before the shot clock was instituted) despite Isiah Thomas being out of the game with three fouls.


I'll take that a step further - LSU did not come out of the locker at half in time to warm up -AT ALL!! Dale kept the team in the locker room the whole half probably talking about Bigfoot or climbing the Matterhorn or covering the holes in his shoes with popcorn box tops back in Minot or some such.

We could not hit a shot in the second half.

The 87 loss to the Hoosiers hurt more though, we outplayed them and Dale chose to go to the 4 corners in that game to with a 9 point lead, when they absolutely could not stop Nikita Wilson.
Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
9952 posts
Posted on 3/15/26 at 4:11 pm to
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Derrick Taylor/Gary Duhe.
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Thank you. Couldn't remember who Duhe's guy was.

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Don Devoe at Tennessee at one point called it unethical....to which Dale responded "so is divorce" - Devoe of course had just recently divorced before Dale's comment.


Yeah, I remember that. DeVoe was a former teammate and assistant of Bobby Knight's, and DeVoe was also a humorless jackass.
This post was edited on 3/15/26 at 4:14 pm
Posted by PlaySomeHonk
Montegut La and Liberty MS
Member since Jan 2023
659 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:49 am to
Ron and Art were both recruiters, not technical XO and game coaches. Art was Browns “National Director of Recruiting”.

So that’s the reason; my post wasn’t about good recruiters, it’s about good technical and game coaches, neither of which were Abernathy and Tolis.
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