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re: It will be great when Orgeron proves the haters wrong.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:11 am to ThePTExperience1969
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:11 am to ThePTExperience1969
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Its pretty sad when the mentality of LSU Tiger fans shift from expectation and aspiration to hope, praying all the time O proves us wrong it really is something aint it
This is entirely self inflicted, it comes from focusing on the negative and ignoring the positive. You O haters simply refuse to see the positives O has accomplished. This years team will be a solid product and should have a very good year. What will you haters bitch about when the team wins 10 or 11 games. That's not outside the realm of possibility with a great defense and a decent offense. I hope someone has bookmarked the more asinine comments made by short sighted fools blinded by their lack of objectivity.
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:16 am to bencoleman
Contrary to some of you, I can not see the future.
I do know this. Usually good results come to people who work hard and see a lot of coaches working hard.
Geaux Tigers.
I do know this. Usually good results come to people who work hard and see a lot of coaches working hard.
Geaux Tigers.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:24 am to rbdallas
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Usually good results come to people who work hard
It helps to be smart too. It also helps to have an eye for details, and for being able to administer many different facets of an organization. Unfortunately, O has never shown that he has these skills. I sure hope he’s suddenly developed them at 55 years old.
I can’t see the future either. However, I can logically view past performance and make an educated guess as to how future performance will turn out.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:24 am to bencoleman
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You O haters simply refuse to see the positives O has accomplished.
I keep hearing this. What are these positives?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:36 am to Mo Jeaux
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What are these positives?
If you have to ask this you really aren't worth the answer but the defense will be infinitely better than last year's product. Definitely improved QB with the Ohio state transfer. The offensive line should be much better. I have full confidence in CEH at RB. A talented stable of wide receivers. Thin but talented at CB. I think Ensminger will be just fine at OC. Any way I look at it this is an improved product from last year's team. Solid defense and decent offense will win a lot of games. I'm looking forward to the season and for redemption.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:46 am to bencoleman
Those are all things that you think will happen. Look back on tangible, on the field things that can be measured and tell me how the positives outweigh the negatives. I'm willing to learn.
I heard just about all of those things last year as well before the season with "Air Canada" coming in and that was with a returning senior, 4* quarterback, 2 senior receivers, a senior RB and a first round talented junior RB. I hope Burrow is better too, but no one can know that for sure. The rest of the offense is unproven as well.
I heard just about all of those things last year as well before the season with "Air Canada" coming in and that was with a returning senior, 4* quarterback, 2 senior receivers, a senior RB and a first round talented junior RB. I hope Burrow is better too, but no one can know that for sure. The rest of the offense is unproven as well.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 5:50 am
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:54 am to TigerLunatik
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. I'm willing to learn
No you aren't.
You're totally ignoring the obvious upgrades at certain positions. You tout Etlings 4 stars and you know as well as I do that Joe is better. You won't and can't acknowledge it but that's ok. You know that LSU will be better along the defensive line but you aren't going to admit to that either. Are you privy to inner workings of the football program? Do you know something that the general fan doesn't? If not then you're not acknowledging the obvious.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:58 am to bencoleman
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If you have to ask this you really aren't worth the answer
Just as I suspected.
The rest of your post is pure speculation. Again, what are the positives that O has brought to the program?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:03 am to bencoleman
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You're totally ignoring the obvious upgrades at certain positions
Ok, tell me about these upgrades and how you can point to tangible, on the field proof that they are better than what we had before.
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you know as well as I do that Joe is better
Same goes here, show me what he has done on the field that is better. I think he can be better, he's very inexperienced and has never seen the kinds of defenses he is going to face this year with the pressures on his shoulders.
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You know that LSU will be better along the defensive line
Again, potentially yes. How many years has the DL coach coached the D line? Probably offset by DL being O's specialty. Time will tell.
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Are you privy to inner workings of the football program? Do you know something that the general fan doesn't? If not then you're not acknowledging the obvious.
I am not, are you? I'm acknowledging this obvious for sure. The head coach has one win over a quality team in 4 years as a head coach and 3 bad losses last year alone. Is there potential? Of course. Are there some reasons for optimism? Definitely.
But, there are WAY more reasons for skepticism than optimism.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:10 am to eyeofthetiger3
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It will be great when Orgeron proves the haters wrong.
That's a 12 year old girl's word...
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The only reason the millennial and negatigers don’t like him is he isn’t a pristine white guy. Fact is there where no great coaches that wanted to come to LSU when we just ran off our winningest coach of all time. I do agree that he is isn’t a homerun hire but damn give the guy a chance. All the haters are an embarrassment to LSU with all the positive public discourse. There are things I don’t like about LSU but I don’t go whine like little bitches about it to everyone. You have a choice to be a fan or not.
The rest of this is so fricking stupid I'm sorry I opened your post. Responding to it would just be compounding that initial error on my part.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:14 am to Mo Jeaux
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The rest of your post is pure speculation. Again, what are the positives that O has brought to the program
If bringing in better players isn't a positive I don't know what is. You're all just butthurt over the O hiring. You didn't get your shiny star. I wasn't thrilled with the hire either but I moped about it for an hour or so and climbed on board. The questions I have is O correcting mistakes and from where I stand it looks as if he is. Hiring Canada was obviously a mistake. Ensminger is a competent OC not a flashy hire but competent.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:15 am to ThePTExperience1969
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Wasn't like his only HC offer post-Ole Miss from Syracuse
No. Syracuse wasn’t even interested. 0 begged for an interview but they said no thanks.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:17 am to bencoleman
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If bringing in better players isn't a positive I don't know what is.
They had top 10 talent last year.
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Ensminger is a competent OC
He hasn't built and taught his own offense in 20 years, how could you possibly know this for sure?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:19 am to bencoleman
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If bringing in better players isn't a positive I don't know what is.
So, O has fulfilled his primary responsibilities as a HC! Awesome! quote:
Ensminger is a competent OC not a flashy hire but competent.
You mean as demonstrated by his last substantive performance in that role, which was 20 some odd years ago? And many thought that was mediocre.
You’re reaching.
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The questions I have is O correcting mistakes and from where I stand it looks as if he is. Hiring Canada was obviously a mistake.
And yet he keeps making these mistakes. It’s odd.
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You're all just butthurt over the O hiring. You didn't get your shiny star.
You’re acting like a child. It’s pathetic.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:20 am to TigerLunatik
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He hasn't built and taught his own offense in 20 years, how could you possibly know this for sure?
Are you fricking serious? Are you just a shitty troll? Congratulations on posting the dumbest shite I'll read today. WTF? Is wrong with you?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:21 am to bencoleman
Go on ... explain what I said that was incorrect.
Btw, I admire your optimism, but you are confusing potential for facts.
Btw, I admire your optimism, but you are confusing potential for facts.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 6:22 am
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:23 am to Mo Jeaux
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You’re acting like a child. It’s pathetic
I'm not the one still throwing a tantrum and crying like a broke dicked dog two years after the hire. How many times and ways can your sorry arse post that you hate O. We heard your dumb arse the first thousand times.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:24 am to bencoleman
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This is entirely self inflicted, it comes from focusing on the negative and ignoring the positive. You O haters simply refuse to see the positives O has accomplished. This years team will be a solid product and should have a very good year. What will you haters bitch about when the team wins 10 or 11 games. That's not outside the realm of possibility with a great defense and a decent offense. I hope someone has bookmarked the more asinine comments made by short sighted fools blinded by their lack of objectivity.
BenColeman
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:24 am to TigerLunatik
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Btw, I admire your optimism, but you are confusing potential for facts
Nope if anyone is confused it's people blinded by pettiness.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:28 am to bencoleman
Bro, you said ...
Jeaux and I asked for examples of these accomplishments and you've yet to list one that isn't pure speculation and/or opinion, all the while seeming to throw a temper tantrum while we are trying to have a simple football discussion. It's been deflection after deflection.
Just simply list the on field accomplishments.
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You O haters simply refuse to see the positives O has accomplished.
Jeaux and I asked for examples of these accomplishments and you've yet to list one that isn't pure speculation and/or opinion, all the while seeming to throw a temper tantrum while we are trying to have a simple football discussion. It's been deflection after deflection.
Just simply list the on field accomplishments.
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