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re: It all starts with the QB
Posted on 11/15/15 at 12:38 pm to SabiDojo
Posted on 11/15/15 at 12:38 pm to SabiDojo
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It's pitiful. No creativity.
College football isn't about creativity. It's about execution. Those auburn and Oregon offenses that were the best in the country ran the same exact play 50 % of the time. Coaches don't have enough on field practice (20 hours a week on the field) time to come up with some innovative and creative playbook.
College coaches look for a defense's weakness and then practice plays from their playbook that should exploit it.
I'm not saying Miles and Cam do this but it's what 99% of all college coaches do.
It does seem like our offensive staff could give a frick about a defense's weakness though.
This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 1:38 pm
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Posted on 11/15/15 at 12:39 pm to STRIPES
Joe Montana couldn't produce in our awful offensive system. We've been blaming the QB and offensive coordinator for 10 years. It's the offensive philosophy that is the problem
Posted on 11/15/15 at 12:40 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Exactly, Rickdaddy.
This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 11/15/15 at 12:41 pm to STRIPES
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you can't see the obvious limitations of Harris then you are kidding yourself or just don't understand the part of the game which Harris is failing at right now. Yes, Miles and Cam recruited these QBs but that doesn't change their ability or lack of. I didn't recruit any of them but that doesn't mean I can't see what is wrong. Everything I have postedabout the QB problems is true and if you don't agree that's fin
Harris is mind boggling.he has one of the best deep balls in cfb but can't hit a 5 yard out. I've never seen a young qb be great at the deep ball yet be horrible at his short throws.
He also refuses to throw open wrs. When playing a defense with future nfl players, the windows aren't gonna be huge. He doesn't trust himself to throw the ball before a wr makes his break.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 12:41 pm to STRIPES
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Harris simply is not the answer. He can't read a defense and has trouble going thru his progression when his primary receiver is covered.
same story with every qb under miles. This has been said about every QB since JJ
Posted on 11/15/15 at 12:43 pm to STRIPES
Actually it starts with the O line. Our line has been dominated the last 2 games. Val Alexander could not block anyone last night and they talk about him playing on Sundays. I mean as soon as the ball was snapped he was jogging backwards so that when he finally engaged the D lineman he was right next to harris. never seen anything like that.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 12:43 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Those auburn and Oregon offenses that were the best in the country ran the same exact play 50 % of the time.
Isn't that because one play has 3 different options depending on the movements/formation of the defense?
Not only do we NOT do that, we have four plays that basically do the exact same thing.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 12:43 pm to HMTVBrian2
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Joe Montana couldn't produce in our awful offensive syste
You have no idea what you're talking about. We've had qbs produce in this prostyle offense. At some point the PLAYERS have to execute. This scheme you're destroying was top 10 in offensive yards per play.thats proves the scheme isn't holding players back. The execution is holding us back. When Harris can't connect on a simple 10 yard pass, that's not scheme.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 12:44 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Wrong.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 12:45 pm to sunnydaze
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same story with every qb under miles. This has been said about every QB since JJ
Exactly. If you can consistently take 4/5 star recruits and make the below average, what do you think is the problem? Do you really think you are just THAT bad at evaluating quarterbacks? Or do you think you are just THAT bad at developing them?
Something tells me the latter is MUCH more plausible.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 12:45 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Hawkins going down and being replaced by Malone was horrendous
Posted on 11/15/15 at 12:46 pm to HMTVBrian2
No Rick is correct actually.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 12:48 pm to SabiDojo
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Isn't that because one play has 3 different options depending on the movements/formation of the defense?
It's still the same play.
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Not only do we NOT do that, we have four plays that basically do the exact same thing.
Uh what? Our Iformation can do more than 3 things. If your players execute a qb draw can go for a td. CFB is all about winning your 1 on 1 battles and the last 2 games our oline has been getting abused.
IMO the playcalling and execution are the problem. The scheme isnt. We have no situational playcalling. It's 3rd and 4? Lets run 3 deep routes that take time to develop and our oline is getting abused.
During thus entire season I've never seen us run any set up plays. This coaching staff is taking the fun out of lsu football.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 12:56 pm to Pmtiger
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Our program is suffering the last two years because of poor recruiting of QB position . What would LSU look like last year and this year with junior and senior Dak
Program has been suffering since 2008 because of shitty QB recruiting.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 12:59 pm to STRIPES
The issue is the O-Line....they have played bad in the last two games. Brandon isn't a bad QB and he has improved throughout the season. I would like to see LSU throw the ball more like last night. The passing game will back people out of the box.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 1:00 pm to LSU Jax
Couldn't agree with you more. The last two games illustrate why people were saying we needed to work on the passing game earlier in the season instead of running the clock out in the 4th quarter. The early games are a chance to practice and work the kinks out. If BH couldn't handle it in the beginning of the season, that falls on the coaches for not getting him ready or recruiting him in the first place.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 1:43 pm to STRIPES
I tend to disagree that it ALL starts with the QB. Granted BH has some technique issues but as person commented earlier, it's all about repititions. And those are instilled by none other than.......the coaching staff. We are all frustrated at the results of the last two games. That shouldn't be directed at any player/s. It clearly falls on how those players have been coached. Not to mention if you was in BH shoes on national tv and the coach says do this and you rebel and just call whatever play you want and as a result get benched how would you feel? How would your teammates feel? I would be willing to bet that BH would be one of the most talked about qbs in CF if he was coached by other coaching staff from other schools.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:25 pm to Canrig1
All I know about Harris is he can't pass worth a damn and can't hit open receivers on short or intermediate routes or screen passes. If some of you think that this ability requires a coaching effort is up to you. I don't. I personally think that a player has this ability or he doesn't. Harris doesn't and the problem I have with this coaching staff is signing these types of QBs to begin with. I don't think Harris is an SEC caliber QB and the coaches can try all they want but its like throwing rocks at the moon.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:29 pm to tgr4ever
Jennings did not have the unstoppable run game that was presented the Tigers the first seven games of this year. Harris is terrible if not worse.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 2:31 pm to STRIPES
LOL
It's not Harris. And it is a coaching problem. Harris is a top recruit and would excel in the right system.. don't make that excuse. Teams win with their backup qbs in this level.
There is poor philosophy and our guy's have to play tight because of it.
It's not Harris. And it is a coaching problem. Harris is a top recruit and would excel in the right system.. don't make that excuse. Teams win with their backup qbs in this level.
There is poor philosophy and our guy's have to play tight because of it.
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