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re: Is there *any* angle showing Stingley's pick hit the ground?

Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:34 pm to
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:34 pm to
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It clearly hit the ground.


Clearly? You saw an angle I didn’t.
Posted by Monkey business
Member since Apr 2019
892 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:34 pm to
Im rewatching right now and there is NO angle that shows the ball hit the ground. That was shown on TV. I'll say it again. They did NOT show the ball hitting the ground on tv.

His foot touched out of bounds though.
Posted by ScootiniTiger
New Orleans
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:35 pm to
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Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26901 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:35 pm to
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Should have been ruled an interception.


No it was out of bounds.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61266 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:35 pm to
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The replay shows the ball, however slightly, bouncing off the turf.


This.
These folks that keep posting the image in here are not proving a damn thing.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91300 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:36 pm to
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Unless Stingley has a significant beer belly, he's completely over the ball and unable to pin it against anything but the ground.


In the still, yes, but the ball was falling as they were moving. I'm saying the video replay makes it look like Stingley pins the ball as it falls while he rolls over the WR.

We can assume the ball probably hits the turf during that exchange, but the shadow and then Stingley's right leg block any definitive view.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26901 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:36 pm to
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Clearly? You saw an angle I didn’t.


Watching it live they showed an angle were you can watch the ball, however slightly, bounce off the ground.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26901 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:36 pm to
We can assume the ball hit the turf because we can watch it, in slow motion, bouncing off the turf.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19227 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:37 pm to
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travesty that it was ever called a reception on the field, cause the Texas guy never had the ball



SEC crew. Burnt Orange looks a lot like Crimson under the lights.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71512 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:40 pm to
Kind of wondering if some on here are blind. Watch the video, it clearly showed on replay the ball bounced off the turf, there wasn't any question from the 1 angle they showed. Nobody had possession when it hit the ground, was never controlled before that point.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91300 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:40 pm to
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The replay shows the ball, however slightly, bouncing off the turf.
IIRC, the video that they went back and forth on makes you think it bounces, but I don't remember seeing it bounce.

I understand physics and whatnot, so I believe it his the ground, but you have to ignore assumptions when discussing instant replay.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26901 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:44 pm to
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I understand physics and whatnot, so I believe it his the ground, but you have to ignore assumptions when discussing instant replay.


No, they called a TD back from Texas after it showed their QB's knee touching the ground.

But, you have to assume it was his knee because there was another body in-between him and the camera cutting his body in half.

According to you it should have been a TD because we have to assume that's the QB's knee. There's no unbroken chain of sight from the QB's hip to his knee, and while we can safely assume that's his knee, as you've said, we can't make assumptions with instant replays.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91300 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:47 pm to
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No, they called a TD back from Texas after it showed their QB's knee touching the ground.

But, you have to assume it was his knee because there was another body in-between him and the camera cutting his body in half.

According to you it should have been a TD because we have to assume that's the QB's knee. There's no unbroken chain of sight from the QB's hip to his knee, and while we can safely assume that's his knee, as you've said, we can't make assumptions with instant replays.




Some of you are pretty pissy about this.
Posted by Tigers eyes
Member since Nov 2018
2649 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:47 pm to
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Is there *any* angle showing Stingley's pick hit the ground?

I just watched it several times from several angles. The only question was when the ball was loose and between the players but the had the perfect angle to see where the ball was when it was loose between them. That ball DID NOT touch the ground!!! The only question is whether Sting was out of bounds before he got complete control.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26901 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:49 pm to


I'm sorry you don't like how your own logic is being applied.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12427 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:49 pm to
Was sitting next to a bunch of Texas fans at the game. When he went up and took that ball away they looked at me and asked "who the hell is that guy?!" They were stunned when I told them he is a true freshman.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26901 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:50 pm to
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Was sitting next to a bunch of Texas fans at the game. When he went up and took that ball away they looked at me and asked "who the hell is that guy?!" They were stunned when I told them he is a true freshman.


DBU
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12950 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:50 pm to
It doesn't matter if it hit the ground or not. Watch the play again. Stingley's foot was out of bounds before "possession" was established (it wasn't, because the ball hit the ground).
Posted by Monkey business
Member since Apr 2019
892 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:51 pm to
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We can assume the ball probably hits the turf


Like i said, there was nothing on tv that showed the ball touch the ground. He was out of bounds though, i believe.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91300 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 6:53 pm to
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I'm sorry you don't like how your own logic is being applied.


If you've seen any football in your life, you know exactly what I mean. Replay officials typically don't make assumptions on things they can't see. Connecting someone's knee is much different than assuming a ball hits the ground when you cannot clearly see it on the ground.
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