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Is Miles the most successful/least liked coach ever?

Posted on 10/23/09 at 6:14 pm
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
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Posted on 10/23/09 at 6:14 pm
Any other examples of a coach who in 4+ years has 1 NC, 1 Conf. title, 2 Conf. championship games, 47-11 record and yet if you asked 100 people on talk radio or message boards if he should be fired, it would probably be 50/50?

Coker is the only other guy I can really think of that fits the bill, but I have no idea if the Miami fans disliked him during his entire tenure, or just at the end when they started to suck.
Posted by specs1
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 10/23/09 at 6:15 pm to
Will be better to answer this at the end of the year. If they repeat last year's 5-1 start and 7-5 finish, then only half of your statement will be correct.
Posted by Dobermann
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Posted on 10/23/09 at 6:16 pm to
Phil Fulmer
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/23/09 at 6:16 pm to
Coach Miles followed Saban. Anytime a coach follows a successful coach this is what happens. It's just like the wife who loses her first husband, she keeps comparing the next one to the old one.
Posted by Tigerdogg
At least I have chicken!
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Posted on 10/23/09 at 6:16 pm to
he's not the most hated but close
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 10/23/09 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

Is Miles the most successful/least liked coach ever?


I like the guy. BUT He needs to do some things that I think would help. BUT I don't get paid $4 MILL to make those choices.
Posted by specs1
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Posted on 10/23/09 at 6:17 pm to
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BUT I don't get paid $4 MILL to make those choices.


Don't know about you, but I'll volunteer to make those choices for a paltry $2 mill.

Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6925 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 6:19 pm to
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If they repeat last year's 5-1 start and 7-5 finish, then only half of your statement will be correct.


That's true, but what if the opposite happens, or some other variation. Say we finish 10-2, and win the bowl game to boot. 11-2 and a top 5 finish. Do you think that changes the opinion of anybody that currently doesn't think he's the right man for the job? If not, why?
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 10/23/09 at 6:19 pm to
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Don't know about you, but I'll volunteer to make those choices for a paltry $2 mill.


I would do it for 250,000. BUT You couldn't do a better job than what he is doing.
Posted by specs1
Member since Dec 2005
10015 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 6:27 pm to
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Say we finish 10-2, and win the bowl game to boot. 11-2 and a top 5 finish. Do you think that changes the opinion of anybody that currently doesn't think he's the right man for the job? If not, why?


No probably not. But those who never thought he was the right guy for the job will be far less vocal, so it will seem as if opinion's were changed.

The problem the fans have now is how bad this offense is. They attribute that to Les, GC, and JJ. The good news for JJ, is that when the offense is this bad, the QB normally gets all the blame.

Les is plagued with an inability to interview well. This hurts him. A friend of mine was asked by a Bama fan about to board charter flight, why Tiger Fans did not like Les. He responed we like Les just fine. We are just not sure he can coach. The bama guy responded we have the exact opposite problem. We know Saban can coach, we're just not sure we like him.

This is a big part of Les problem. The job seems to big for him. Whether its sprinting up and down the sidelines trying to call a time out on a change of possession, trying to locate his wife in the stands, or the weekly radio debacle, Les continues to hurt himself in the eyes of the fans.

That said, he does a lot of stupid things while coaching that leaves people scratching their heads. But to my knowlege, he's never lost to ULM.

This post was edited on 10/23/09 at 6:32 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/23/09 at 7:02 pm to
This is faulty premise. I dont know of anyone who personally dislikes Miles. He is a likable dude. That is not the issue.

Hell I know ALOT of likeable fellas that are just average at their jobs.
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
9967 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 7:35 pm to
He did his job well, however, he made ONE bone head maneuver in the SEC and that pretty much screwed us. The hiring or the promoting from within. That screwed us over big time. We had a high octane offense last year but the Defense could not get it back when we made a mistake. The hiring from withing screwed us and that is what cause les downfall.

He is now once burn and twice shy...like carl say, he just need to let the chain loose now that the Defense can play and erase our offense mistake's.
Posted by LikeKnightsofOld
Member since Sep 2009
1310 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 7:36 pm to
Smoke Laval is up on that list. Especially 02 - May of 05. After that he deserved the hate he got.
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
6509 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 7:38 pm to
Coker had an undefeated NC and was a better caoch with his talent. He just could not recruit.
Posted by hacanms
Lincoln County, MS
Member since Feb 2007
2810 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 7:40 pm to
I like Miles as LSU's coach. He is a good man that has the best interest of his player's well-being first. Sure he is quirky as heck and like all coaches, some fans think they know more than he does. Maybe that is why this post was started. We sure do have a lot of 'know-it-all' fans nowadays, especially with all the success of this decade.

To answer your question: NO
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

That's true, but what if the opposite happens, or some other variation. Say we finish 10-2, and win the bowl game to boot. 11-2 and a top 5 finish. Do you think that changes the opinion of anybody that currently doesn't think he's the right man for the job? If not, why?

9-3,10-2 probably wouldn't change some peoples opinions one iota. the hardest thing for most people to admit...is that they are wrong and have been for a long time. rebel flags are still flown by some with great pride in the south...aren't they?
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 8:17 pm to
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This is a big part of Les problem. The job seems to big for him. Whether its sprinting up and down the sidelines trying to call a time out on a change of possession, trying to locate his wife in the stands, or the weekly radio debacle, Les continues to hurt himself in the eyes of the fans.

this is the stupidest shite I've ever read...man, you are seriously fricked in the head. do you really think the job is too big for Miles? he's half of the equation that made LSU an elite power. Saban started it with facilities, recruiting and a natcham...Miles improved it with recruiting, calm, strength and a natcham all the time dealing with the Katrina-Rita disasters, the population loss (ie, athletes moving out of state), the Michigan job speculation and the resurgence of Bama under Saban. He is now faced with an SEC West loaded with fine coaches and a dwindling recruiting base which has made his job harder than anything Saban faced. Both men were and have been spectacularly successful at and for LSU...to imply that one is not big enough for the job is rampant stupidity.
Posted by ginms
Ridgeland Ms
Member since Aug 2007
1885 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 8:20 pm to
Posted by billfish21
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
1590 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 8:48 pm to
several coaches perhaps undeserving of the heap of shite sandwiches...

slocum at A&M

weiss and willingham tenures at notre dame

saban at miami and his departure to tuscaloosa

shula at tuscaloosa

mike price at tuscaloosa

callahan at nebraska

bowden at florida state

bowden at clemson

nutt at fayetteville

the clown at austin prior to brown... mackovic!

Posted by billfish21
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
1590 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 8:50 pm to
petrino at atlanta with depature to arkansas...

really - petrino promised the world with the falcons and is blessed with vick and his bullshite...
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