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re: Is Miles the best running game coach in college football?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 9:46 am to tigerskin
Posted on 9/29/15 at 9:46 am to tigerskin
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Wait, I can criticize Miles just like everyone else. We criticize the passing game, we know what the passing game is, and we blame Miles. But we "don't know" what the running game is and can't give Miles the credit when all we talk about is how Miles is the one in control of running the ball? Huh?????
You're free to criticize or praise whoever you chose. What I said in my post is that there's no such designation as a running game coach.
LSU has been highly successful running the football this year and there are several coaches and a number of talented players responsible for the numbers we've put up so far.
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 9:47 am to tigerskin
Public speaking is his forte. ;)
Do you remember the running game when JR was QB.
Do you remember the running game when JR was QB.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 9:48 am to gerkin
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a great 'running game coach' can have an effective run game even without super elite talent. and they do it, at least in part, by a balanced offensive attack.
BS
Posted on 9/29/15 at 9:51 am to gerkin
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a great 'running game coach' can have an effective run game even without super elite talent. and they do it, at least in part, by a balanced offensive attack.
this is absolutely correct.
Great coaches are best measured by what they do with lesser talent. With All-American's at RB and OL, my wife could coach us and we'd still have a good running game.
It's what a coach does with lesser talent that demonstrates his true greatness.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 9:52 am to Erin Go Bragh
This isn't the only year Miles has been able to run the football
Posted on 9/29/15 at 9:54 am to atltiger6487
What all All Americans have we had on the OLine in the last decade?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 9:59 am to tigerskin
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This isn't the only year Miles has been able to run the football
True. Last year LSU finished 24th nationally. In 2013 we were number 30. In 2012 number 46.
All respectable. But rushing is our primary means of moving the ball and controlling the game.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:04 am to tigerskin
Coach Miles is hands down the best coach in the country,Kansas coach, (jay hawks) I think is also excellent,Geaux Tigers !
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:06 am to tigerskin
no, but he's a he best coach LSU has had and I still believe there are only two coaches rt now better than him. And he's beaten both of them multiple times. I won't be surprised when he does it again this year.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:07 am to tigerskin
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What all All Americans have we had on the OLine in the last decade?
you're nitpicking. I hereby retract "All-American" and replace it with "elite talent." Would that be accurate enough for you?
But my point is the same - if you have elite talent, it's easier to have success. Now of course the coaches get credit for recruiting that talent.
But when assessing true coaching ability, I like to see what coaches can do without elite talent. That's where their x & o strategy, teaching of technique, and motivation are most necessary. If they have similar success with lesser talent, then that's a big indication that the coaching is rock solid.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:09 am to atltiger6487
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s what a coach does with lesser talent that demonstrates his true greatness.
When has saban won with less talent? or urban Meyer, or jimbo fisher?
they haven't, does that mean they aren't great coaches?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:14 am to tigerskin
Get rid of "running game" and you have a complete sentence.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:17 am to LSUwag
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I honestly think that LSU runs the I formation brilliantly. It is a thing of beauty watching it.
This.
Rick Neuheisel was breaking down Fournette's long TD against Syracuse on SirusXM yesterday morning. He was genuinely excited talking about the ISO play and he commented multiple times on how well LSU executes the old smash mouth style of play.
I genuinely like our offense because there are no gimmicks. We do a few things and we do them very, very well.
The same fans that bitch about our offense would likely tell John Curtis to stop running 5 plays out of the veer because they are too predictable.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:20 am to Erin Go Bragh
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There are so many different parts of the running game that have to be coordinated to make it successful that no one coach is going to be solely responsible for its success.
The OP didn't write "running backs coach" he wrote "running GAME" coach. Subtle but important difference. Apparently Miles can indeed coordinate these pieces.
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We're not doing anything innovative with our running game. We pull our guards and tackles just like every other team. We're just really really talented on the offensive line and at the RB position.
So did Woody Hayes with his "three yards and a cloud of dust offense.
So did John McKay with his "student body right/left" offense.
So did Vince Lombardi with his Green Bay Power sweep".
Miles must get some credit (however reluctantly from a lot of you) for putting the pieces together, designing the system and overseeing it's operation.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:23 am to dgnx6
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When has saban won with less talent? or urban Meyer, or jimbo fisher?
they haven't, does that mean they aren't great coaches?
well, Saban had Blake Sims at QB last year, and made it to the playoffs. Urban Meyer had a 3rd string QB, and won it all.
And I was really referring more to coordinators, who actually coach the players daily, are most responsible for their development, call the plays, and generally run the O and D.
Note that OSU's QBs haven't been as productive this year, and maybe that's due to OSU's OC leaving to become the head coach at Univ. of Houston.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:25 am to Geralt of Rantia
Ever stop to think that maybe top RBs choose to go to certain schools because of the offense they run and the coaches notoriety for that position? 
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:25 am to Gray Tiger
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Miles must get some credit (however reluctantly from a lot of you
Good lord, in the very post you quoted from I gave Miles credit as the head coach. Somehow that was the only quote you managed to leave off. I truly believe some of you want to forge an arguement when none exist.
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The OP didn't write "running backs coach" he wrote "running GAME" coach.
Sorry, that's funny
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:30 am to tigerskin
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Is Miles the best running game coach in college football
no
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:31 am to atltiger6487
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Great coaches are best measured by what they do with lesser talent. With All-American's at RB and OL, my wife could coach us and we'd still have a good running game.
idiot
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It's what a coach does with lesser talent that demonstrates his true greatness.
no coach...in any sport...has ever won anything significant with shitty talent
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:34 am to sabanisarustedspoke
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We run the same running play 30 times a game.
Reminder that a significant % of rantards literally believe that there is a play called "the run play" and that's what our offense is based on. The slightly more advanced ranter has the wherewithal to recognize two plays, "the toss dive" (any play where the ball is pitched) and "the handoff" (anything else).
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