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re: Is Mainieri on the hot seat for next year?
Posted on 6/18/12 at 10:05 am to lsuwhoopyoazz3232
Posted on 6/18/12 at 10:05 am to lsuwhoopyoazz3232
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yeah, we had a shitty year in 2011, but we overacheived this season.
Who fault is it that we were in a position to overachieve? PM recruits the players, the buck stops with him.
We've gone 3 years with no trips to Omaha...if we make it 4 next year it will be completely unacceptable for the amount of resources we put into the program.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 10:06 am to LSUfanaddict
I say if we miss the regionals, then yes. Smoke only did this once and he was fired. I think by missing twice it would be time for PM to go. I know he won a natty, but that would be going downhill, especially if we have the same issues we had this year with hitting, base running, bunting, etc.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 10:10 am to TheDoc
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It's like miles going 11-2 in 2010 with Gary fricking crowton as OC
Yeah, the record was good, but you could see the major downfall of the team.
Exactly. However Miles got rid of him. Mainieri not only keeps him around but goes on record as saying a pitching coach is "overrated". As far as Stony brook is concerned baseball happens we hit a bad slump and we had already overachieved to get there. That doesnt bother me. What bothers me is Mainieri's attitude afterwards.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 10:12 am to LSUfanaddict
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Is Mainieri on the hot seat for next year?
Wow
Posted on 6/18/12 at 10:24 am to TigerCub
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They got the most use and $$ they possible could out of the stadium.
This. As long as we're drawing 10,000/game, no one is going anywhere. When Tiger Nation starts to vote with their feet, then you might see some action.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 10:30 am to RockChalkTiger
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As long as we're drawing 10,000/game, no one is going anywhere. When Tiger Nation starts to vote with their feet, then you might see some action.
That's really a moot point considering we've lead the nation in paid attendance for 17 straight years. Yet, we fired Smoke during that time period. LSU only cares about paid attendance not actual attendance.
Regardless of the season's results, LSU will always sell out baseball season tickets. Not really sure how relevant "vot[ing] with their feet" is as you suggest.
This post was edited on 6/18/12 at 10:31 am
Posted on 6/18/12 at 10:38 am to LSUfanaddict
you are either flaming or you have no clue about the LSU political scene.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 10:45 am to MrBobDobalina
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Posted on 6/18/12 at 10:54 am to Joe Joe Joe
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LSU only cares about paid attendance not actual attendance.
You're completely wrong, if there's no butts in the ballpark, concessions aren't being sold. LSU makes a ton more on concessions than they do tickets.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 11:40 am to LSUfanaddict
2009 National Coach of the Year (ABCA, Baseball America, Collegiate Baseball, Rivals.com)
2009 Southeastern Conference Coach of the Year
2008 National Coach of the Year (Rivals.com, CollegeBaseballInsider.com)
Career Record (29 seasons): 1075-596-7 (.643)
LSU Record (five seasons): 211-104-2 (.669)
LSU Baseball under Paul Mainieri
NCAA National Champions - 2009
College World Series Appearances - 2008, 2009
Southeastern Conference Champions - 2009, 2012
SEC Tournament Champions - 2008, 2009, 2010
SEC Western Division Champions - 2008, 2009, 2012
Yea I guess this isn't good enough. I realize we have not been to Omaha since 2009 but damn people give him a break. He has had big shoes to fill and I think he has done a great job so far.
2009 Southeastern Conference Coach of the Year
2008 National Coach of the Year (Rivals.com, CollegeBaseballInsider.com)
Career Record (29 seasons): 1075-596-7 (.643)
LSU Record (five seasons): 211-104-2 (.669)
LSU Baseball under Paul Mainieri
NCAA National Champions - 2009
College World Series Appearances - 2008, 2009
Southeastern Conference Champions - 2009, 2012
SEC Tournament Champions - 2008, 2009, 2010
SEC Western Division Champions - 2008, 2009, 2012
Yea I guess this isn't good enough. I realize we have not been to Omaha since 2009 but damn people give him a break. He has had big shoes to fill and I think he has done a great job so far.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 11:45 am to cajunsaint11
Just curious, but what is his record against sec opponents since he's been here?
Posted on 6/18/12 at 11:49 am to cajunsaint11
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I realize we have not been to Omaha since 2009
Should've ended your comment right there.
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He has had big shoes to fill and I think he has done a great job so far
Filling Smoke's shoes was a big task? I was unaware of that.
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Just curious, but what is his record against sec opponents since he's been here?
96-82-2 (.533)
quote:
2007 12–17–1 5th (West)
2008 18–11–1 2nd (West)
2009 20–10 1st (West)
2010 14–16 5th (West)
2011 13–17 T–5th (West)
2012 19–11 1st (West)
That point is: how long does he get to live off his National Championship in 2009? If after 4 years, he hasn't made Omaha, I'd say that it's a legitimate question whether or not his job is safe.
This post was edited on 6/18/12 at 11:53 am
Posted on 6/18/12 at 11:53 am to Joe Joe Joe
No but if he misses Omaha again I expect he will be forced to make some changes (ie. Sanchez gets the hook).
Posted on 6/18/12 at 11:57 am to Joe Joe Joe
LSU Average Attendance by Season:
99-7155
00-7356
01-7476--Skip's last year
02-7532
03-7449
04-7802
05-7508
06-7320--Smoke Fired
07-7330
08-7590
09-9611--first year in new Box
10-10673
11-10736
LINK
I say someone pays attention to this.
99-7155
00-7356
01-7476--Skip's last year
02-7532
03-7449
04-7802
05-7508
06-7320--Smoke Fired
07-7330
08-7590
09-9611--first year in new Box
10-10673
11-10736
LINK
I say someone pays attention to this.
This post was edited on 6/18/12 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:01 pm to TJG210
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You're completely wrong, if there's no butts in the ballpark, concessions aren't being sold. LSU makes a ton more on concessions than they do tickets.
A ton more on concessions than tickets? What are you talking about?
Per LSU's 2011 Athletic Department audit:
quote:
OTHER SPORTS
Ticket Sales $2,816,207
Contributions $5,148,749
...
Concessions $200,543
LINK
Considering the audit categorizes Football, Basketball, and Women's Basketball as separate categories, you can assume "OTHER SPORTS" is basically baseball. Thus, you've got roughly $3 million in ticket sales to $200,000 in concessions.
What were you saying, again?
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:05 pm to LSUfanaddict
I'll hang up and listen
He should be. Needs to recruit hitters. Nest year 2 hitters, Rymes & Katz. Same result except Gausman will be gone and no replacement for him except Nola. Nola is great but gets hit whn the ump woesn't give the low strike or the corners. I'm hoping for the best but expecting less.
He should be. Needs to recruit hitters. Nest year 2 hitters, Rymes & Katz. Same result except Gausman will be gone and no replacement for him except Nola. Nola is great but gets hit whn the ump woesn't give the low strike or the corners. I'm hoping for the best but expecting less.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:06 pm to RockChalkTiger
quote:
LSU Average Attendance by Season:
99-7155
00-7356
01-7476--Skip's last year
02-7532
03-7449
04-7802
05-7508
06-7320--Smoke Fired
07-7330
08-7590
09-9611--first year in new Box
10-10673
11-10736
LINK
I say someone pays attention to this.
First off, you are proving my point and discrediting your own because those are paid attendance, not actual attendance, figures.
Second, even assuming your point (that people vote with their feet and a decline would justify a move) is valid, let me ask you one simple question based on those numbers. If those numbers are relevant, then why did we only average 36 people more at games in 2000, when we won a National Championship, than in 2006, when Laval was fired?
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:19 pm to OldSarge38
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Nest year 2 hitters, Rymes & Katz. Same result except Gausman will be gone and no replacement for him except Nola. Nola is great but gets hit whn the ump woesn't give the low strike or the corners. I'm hoping for the best but expecting less.
So we are already writing off Ross, Jacoby and Tyler Moore next year? Also Alex Bregman?
Pitching wise, you could have an improved Eades and Nola, will have Cotton back, Bourgeios plus newcomers
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:21 pm to josh336
They need to improve at the plate with RISP. Their approach seems rushed and they don't take on good pitches, regardless of the count. When they're patient they won't swing the bat.
Pitching is the least of my concern.
Pitching is the least of my concern.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:31 pm to Cajun Revolution
Hitting in the clutch has little to do with coaching.....and I'd like to see some stats to back up our trouble with RISP
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