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re: Is Mainieri on the hot seat for next year?
Posted on 6/17/12 at 10:39 pm to Joe Joe Joe
Posted on 6/17/12 at 10:39 pm to Joe Joe Joe
Of course he is. We have higher goals than just hosting supers. He has failed to get us to Omaha once again. Most of our fan base and players come here to get a chance to go to Omaha and not just settle for hosting post season games.
Posted on 6/17/12 at 10:40 pm to Joe Joe Joe
I can agree with you there. Again, Im just stating my opinion that the powers to be will probably give him time because we just won the SEC and hosted a Super Regional. Certainly, I can agree with you that after missing Omaha for three years in a row, it is definitely time to get back based upon LSU's reputation in baseball.
Posted on 6/17/12 at 10:52 pm to windhammontanatigers
Losing in the supers is the same as losing in football in a lower tier bowl game. I don't care if we ever win the sec or host any regionals, I rather get to Omaha and play in the real tournament every year. I see no progress in the last 3 years except pitching. Our outfield defensively is weak and we have no team speed. If we are not going after pure power hitters, then we need to recruit contact hitters who can run. I just do not see progress in our hitters the last few years. I have seen some go backwards
Posted on 6/17/12 at 10:56 pm to LSUfanaddict
Whoever LSU's baseball coach is will always be on the hot seat. Which I know the rant loves. If you can't make the postseason, you will be on it, and if you host a regional, you will be fine. Thats how it is for Mainieri
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:08 pm to Joe Joe Joe
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If Mainieri doesn't make Omaha next year, things could get really interesting.
Not sure if serious...
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:10 pm to RGJ18
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Not sure if serious...
Absolutely serious. He will have failed to make Omaha in 4 years and will have failed to capitalize on a National Championship win.
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:11 pm to Joe Joe Joe
if we don't make Omaha, Katz and Edward's class will be the first freshmen since those than came in in 1982 that didn't make it to Omaha once.
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:13 pm to RGJ18
For the folks who are hating on the op, smoke went 0-2 in Omaha 2 yrs in a row and then didn't make a regional and got canned, why is it hard to believe mainieri would be in a different spot?
Besides winning 1 Cws title, what has the man done with the most resources in college baseball? If we don't make it to Omaha next year that will be 4 yrs in a row.....hell sc may BR going for their 4th Cws title in a row by then.
Besides winning 1 Cws title, what has the man done with the most resources in college baseball? If we don't make it to Omaha next year that will be 4 yrs in a row.....hell sc may BR going for their 4th Cws title in a row by then.
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:17 pm to LSUfanaddict
YEP. Hosted a super regional. If he doesn't win it all next year...GONE
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:18 pm to TJG210
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Besides winning 1 Cws title, what has the man done with the most resources in college baseball?
Granted, winning a National Championship now is harder than when Smoke was here and when Bertman did it. That's why I think Mainieri has deserved a certain amount of good will.
But I think Mainieri's job security is very tenuous if w don't make Omaha next year. Because it will illustrate a complete and total failure to capitalize on that national championship. He will have had a complete cycle of players, recruits and teams that played, were recruited and built in the immediate "glow" of a National Championship and will have nothing to show for it.
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YEP. Hosted a super regional. If he doesn't win it all next year...GONE
I wouldn't go that far. I think he HAS to make Omaha, but I don't expect, especially after losing Gausman, to be a favorite for the title.
This post was edited on 6/17/12 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:21 pm to Joe Joe Joe
You're right, it will probably get "interesting" with some of our over reactive fans. But Alleva's not gonna do anything, surely it won't get interesting in that perspective, which is the only one that really matters.
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:21 pm to jimbeam
No one is saying he has to win it all next year, but at least make it to Omaha. We hosted a super, whoopee. The team that beat us went two and q, and ucla scored more runs with no one out in the first inning than we did in two games.
Are Kentucky basketball fans happy with a sweet 16?
To whom much is given, much is expected.
Are Kentucky basketball fans happy with a sweet 16?
To whom much is given, much is expected.
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:25 pm to RGJ18
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You're right, it will probably get "interesting" with some of our over reactive fans.
What is overreactive about failing to make Omaha for the fourth straight year, the first time that has happened in 30 years?
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:28 pm to Joe Joe Joe
That you're not mentioning the fact that we won the national championship the year before that.
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:29 pm to TJG210
Piss poor describes the coaching job since the world series title. PM even said he spent too much time at speaking engagements instead of recruiting. He has failed to get commitments from the best players in state. Best in state SS and catcher committed to Ole Miss. Thank god they were drafted high and will sign. PM is failing to maintain the what he was given. In over his head is how I put it and too laid back for me as a coach. I don't see how he could fire up any team.
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:31 pm to RGJ18
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That you're not mentioning the fact that we won the national championship the year before that.
Apparently you missed the part of my post where I said this:
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He will have had a complete cycle of players, recruits and teams that played, were recruited and built in the immediate "glow" of a National Championship and will have nothing to show for it.
Also, Mainieri's worst enemy right now isn't the LSU fans. It's USC and Florida. Because when Mainieri has to start explaining how or why LSU isn't the best program in the SEC anymore, even after winning a National Championship 5 years earlier, then he has problems. And that's the position he's looking at next year if he doesn't make Omaha (and God forbid, one of those teams makes it for the 4th straight year and/or wins another National Championship this year or next).
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Best in state SS and catcher committed to Ole Miss. Thank god they were drafted high and will sign.
That's not really fair because they were going to be high draft picks regardless and given the very prickly relationship between Mainieri and Cecchinni, I think he handled that and Stryker's recruitments well. Face it, he would have been blasted if those kids committed to LSU and then signed. People would've been comparing him to Turtle Thomas and Smoke even though those kids were never going to step foot on a college campus. He knew that and did the right thing, even if perception wise he "lost" two recruits to Ole Miss.
This post was edited on 6/17/12 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:32 pm to Joe Joe Joe
You have to believe that CPM will be on the hotseat when the AD asks him to make staff changes. He has earned the right to fix any problem b/c of the NC in 2009. If he fires Javy next year, it will be a sign he is feeling heat from the AD.
If he refuses to make a requested staff change, he better win quickly. In sum, he isn't going anywhere until he is first forced to fire someone on staff.
If he refuses to make a requested staff change, he better win quickly. In sum, he isn't going anywhere until he is first forced to fire someone on staff.
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:36 pm to Joe Joe Joe
Didn't see that. Regardless, I don't see him on the hot seat for next year, especially after being one win away from Omaha this year. Who knows what wouldve happened if we beat SB.
I would say he will be on the hot seat for the next season if nothing happens.
I would say he will be on the hot seat for the next season if nothing happens.
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