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re: Is Mainieri on the hot seat for next year?
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:38 pm to LSU92
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:38 pm to LSU92
That dummy Alleva won't be making any ultimatums......our only hope is when the new president takes over he sweeps Alleva out the door. It would be nice to have a competent ad again.
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Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:41 pm to RGJ18
I wish I had folks like you to answer to at work, support and defend mediocrity. I bet some of y'all were hoping Trent would stay another year. Even with the piss poor hire that was made he has recruited circles around what Johnson was doing.
This post was edited on 6/17/12 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:43 pm to RGJ18
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I don't see him on the hot seat for next year, especially after being one win away from Omaha this year.
I wouldn't call it the "hot seat." They aren't going to fire him mid-year or anything like that. But I think he's aware that he needs to get back to Omaha very soon and it more than likely needs to be next year. There a lot of things that would factor into a decision if LSU doesn't make Omaha. Like I've suggested, I think USC and Florida's programs factor into it much more than Mainieri would like. It would be very difficult to defend LSU's mediocrity in light of those two programs' successes since we won in 2009.
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Who knows what wouldve happened if we beat SB.
2 and 'que like them. We weren't beating UCLA, even with Gausman on the mound.
This post was edited on 6/17/12 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:45 pm to RGJ18
Actually I know what happened and why cecchinni did not commit to LSU. Had to do with an assistant coach at LSU and a comment made. That's all I will say. former ole miss player lured Stryker to commit to ole miss as well. I know that whole situation as well. All I'm saying is that we should do a much better job recruiting in state talent and quit expecting all the best players in state will come here.
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:49 pm to Bayoufightingtiger
I'm upset with mainieri, but get over cecchini and trahan, unless they were injured and their stock dropped dramatically it was 100% clear they weren't coming to campus
Posted on 6/17/12 at 11:53 pm to Bayoufightingtiger
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Had to do with an assistant coach at LSU and a comment made. That's all I will say.
It's pretty well know that Grewe blew a gasket when Cecchinni's brother said he wouldn't sign for anything less than a certain number and then went pro anyways with a much lower bonus. Coupled with getting burned by Colvin and von Rosenberg, it cemented an understandable shift in Mainieri's recruiting philosophy. I thought he and LSU handled both recruitments this year appropriately.
So I can't say I agree with your argument that we need to do a much better job recruiting state talent considering that state talent was never showing up on campus. Regardless of where they "committed," it was fairly inconsequential.
This post was edited on 6/17/12 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:03 am to Joe Joe Joe
Manieri has had a record of having a bunch of clowns as assistant coaches. When he was away doing his speaking engagements, these clowns were doing all the recruiting. Not being in Omaha for 3 years really hurts. His staff can't use we just won the national championship recruiting ploy at this time. Evaluation of talent is his downfall. There are at least 5 kids on this team that is not LSU material and some were in the starting line up.
This post was edited on 6/18/12 at 12:10 am
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:05 am to Bayoufightingtiger
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Manieri has had a record of having a bunch of clowns as assistant coaches. When he was away doing his speaking engagements, these clowns were doing all the recruiting. Not being in Omaha for 3 years really hurts. His staff can't use we just the national championship recruiting ploy at this time. Evaluation of talent is his downfall. There are at least 5 kids on this team that is not LSU material and some were in the starting line up.
Can't argue with anything there.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:08 am to Joe Joe Joe
Besides Grewe and Javi, not sure I agree.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:10 am to Bayoufightingtiger
Dude don't you realize that Trahan nor Cecchini were going to college anywhere??????
Also, whatever Grewe said during the older Cecchini debacle was probably true and warranted.
Also, whatever Grewe said during the older Cecchini debacle was probably true and warranted.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:15 am to LSU316
Grewe and Javi were both in charge of recruiting. Not good hires and the clowns I speak of.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:20 am to TJG210
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I wish I had folks like you to answer to at work, support and defend mediocrity. I bet some of y'all were hoping Trent would stay another year. Even with the piss poor hire that was made he has recruited circles around what Johnson was doing.
So what are your standards sir? This isn't a damn video game where u just win the national championship every year. Why even be a fan if nothing is ever good enough for you?
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support and defend mediocrity
So you wouldn't support LSU if they aren't good enough for you. Great fan you are...
This post was edited on 6/18/12 at 12:29 am
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:30 am to RGJ18
At least make it to the Cws, since winning in 09, in case you haven't noticed we've sat out behinds at home, while at least 4 other sec teams have gone. It would be nice for pm to take his head out of the sand and give Javi his walking papers. Teams go through slumps, our guys stunk it up last week against an average at best pitching staff.
Furthermore, if you look at the last three years and think our base running fundamentals are acceptable, then you don't know squat about baseball.
Furthermore, if you look at the last three years and think our base running fundamentals are acceptable, then you don't know squat about baseball.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:37 am to Bayoufightingtiger
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Grewe and Javi were both in charge of recruiting. Not good hires and the clowns I speak of.
While neither were good hires....this is what you said.
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Actually I know what happened and why cecchinni did not commit to LSU. Had to do with an assistant coach at LSU and a comment made. That's all I will say. former ole miss player lured Stryker to commit to ole miss as well. I know that whole situation as well. All I'm saying is that we should do a much better job recruiting in state talent and quit expecting all the best players in state will come here.
If Javi made the decision to not waste anytime recruiting young Cecchini or Trahan that was an absolute stellar decision.....one of the few he has made at LSU....simple because they were never playing at the collegiate level PERIOD.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:37 am to TJG210
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It would be nice for pm to take his head out of the sand and give Javi his walking papers.
I can agree with you there.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:39 am to RGJ18
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So you wouldn't support LSU if they aren't good enough for you. Great fan you are...
Do you have reading comprehension issues? I will support LSU no matter what, however, I'm going to call em like I see em, and Mainieri since the CWS win has stunk it up.
If you employ a salesman and the guy makes a huge sale in his third year, should you give him a pass when in his 4th, 5th, and 6th years he doesn't do squat?
And sorry if you don't like the metric of being judged a success or failure by making it to the CWS. When you have the most resources at your disposal and play in a shrine of a ballpark, the expectations get ratcheted up.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:45 am to TJG210
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And sorry if you don't like the metric of being judged a success or failure by making it to the CWS. When you have the most resources at your disposal and play in a shrine of a ballpark, the expectations get ratcheted up.
While what you say there might be true....but hell if you fire Maineri tomorrow what realistic hire are you going to make? Also, please don't tell me you are one of those that are going to say Ray Tanner, O'Sullivan, Horton, Lopez, etc......any of those dudes would be crazy to come to a school that just fired a coach that won a CWS in the last three years and hosted a super regional a week ago.
Now if you are for hiring Stony Brook's coach....then by all means you can make a real good case for firing Maineri right now.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 12:47 am to TJG210
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Do you have reading comprehension issues?
No, I don't. You mentioned that I shouldn't support/defend mediocrity. I don't know if you remember football in the 90s but we were less than that but real fans still support. Y u so mad, bro?
Posted on 6/18/12 at 1:13 am to RGJ18
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but real fans still support.
Theres a difference between supporting the school/team and the coach who has obvious deficiencies.
Should we have let curly hang around after 94 and let him continue to stink up the joint? If Alleva would have stepped up to the plate and canned Johnson after the season instead of fiddling around we could have landed a proven coach like Frank Martin. Again, not saying Mainieri should be run following this year, but if we don't make the CWS next year, I would hope whoever is the AD has a list in his desk.
Posted on 6/18/12 at 1:16 am to TJG210
Are you comparing lsu football in '94 to lsu baseball in '12?
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