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Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:07 pm to BeeFense5
I agree
Just imho, we may end up with a more aggressive offense due to the unfortunate situation. Might go back to simple/stupid - running attack with a Pro style passing attack. I was never too keen on all this short side option stuff and 3 yard dump passes.
Just imho, we may end up with a more aggressive offense due to the unfortunate situation. Might go back to simple/stupid - running attack with a Pro style passing attack. I was never too keen on all this short side option stuff and 3 yard dump passes.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:08 pm to Uncommon Cents
Yes - one every 3 years is good.
Never going to happen every year. Such high preseason expectations for so many SEC teams is unrealistic. We beat the snot out of each other.
Never going to happen every year. Such high preseason expectations for so many SEC teams is unrealistic. We beat the snot out of each other.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 12:46 pm to Paulu
quote:
Four starters — senior guards Josh Dworaczyk and Will Blackwell, junior center P.J. Lonergan and junior right tackle Alex Hurst — return from a unit that helped LSU finish fourth in the Southeastern Conference in rushing in 2010
I'll be happy to see 50% of these guys not injured coming into this game.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 2:01 pm to Paulu
This program isn't in the greatest shape, but is still a top 10 program.
The off-field discipline issues are concerning, but the on-field discipline and leadership issues are the bigger problem.
That said, I am not a person that focuses on wins and losses, but more so at what the season is defined as. LSU won 11 games last season, and some cheered it as a great success, others as mediocre. Wins are nice, but as it has the past 2 seasons, LSU has ended the season at least 2 games out of the SEC West title.
I don't agree with Les' contract extension, but he got it. I personally would rather have let him go to UM if they were really offering him so much, but if LSU was smart, the fact that we have been charged, convicted and punished for a major violation under his watch should make the guarantee/buyout pointless. If LSU was stupid enough not to take advantage of that, then Alleva needs to go.
In the end, the program isn't crumbling, but it may simply be that we are a program in football now that will win games (8-11) but not championships (SEC West, SEC, or National). Some are fine with that and care more about the number of wins, while others measure success in titles. I'll give Les the benefit of the doubt and believe he'll lead LSU to an SEC West/SEC title within this or next season. If he fails to do that, then I'm all for him being on the hot seat as it will have been half a decade without LSU doing so, and the money he gets doesn't justify just winning games with no hardware.
Until then, I am with him and the team. I have faith.
The off-field discipline issues are concerning, but the on-field discipline and leadership issues are the bigger problem.
That said, I am not a person that focuses on wins and losses, but more so at what the season is defined as. LSU won 11 games last season, and some cheered it as a great success, others as mediocre. Wins are nice, but as it has the past 2 seasons, LSU has ended the season at least 2 games out of the SEC West title.
I don't agree with Les' contract extension, but he got it. I personally would rather have let him go to UM if they were really offering him so much, but if LSU was smart, the fact that we have been charged, convicted and punished for a major violation under his watch should make the guarantee/buyout pointless. If LSU was stupid enough not to take advantage of that, then Alleva needs to go.
In the end, the program isn't crumbling, but it may simply be that we are a program in football now that will win games (8-11) but not championships (SEC West, SEC, or National). Some are fine with that and care more about the number of wins, while others measure success in titles. I'll give Les the benefit of the doubt and believe he'll lead LSU to an SEC West/SEC title within this or next season. If he fails to do that, then I'm all for him being on the hot seat as it will have been half a decade without LSU doing so, and the money he gets doesn't justify just winning games with no hardware.
Until then, I am with him and the team. I have faith.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 2:57 pm to golf teaching pro
No the program is not! It's not the program Miles inherited it has slipped. In any company it starts at the top that's why CEOs make large money. Les is Lsu football's CEO and our stock is about as valuable as Enrons right now.
Don't hand us that bs...if you screw up bad enough at work,..you are saying that they will fire the head man and not you?...what planet do you live on.. ....
Don't hand us that bs...if you screw up bad enough at work,..you are saying that they will fire the head man and not you?...what planet do you live on.. ....
This post was edited on 8/28/11 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 8/28/11 at 3:12 pm to Genghis Khan
good question. I wouldn't have increased Miles buyout fwiw.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 3:45 pm to Genghis Khan
All big time programs cheat. Some get caught more then others
Posted on 8/28/11 at 4:49 pm to Genghis Khan
I think Ohio State would trade for our problems vs. theirs. We are overall headed in the right direction. Players are people and they screw up from time to time. Les does not recruit thugs and we should not judge all the young men on the team by what happened. Lets give everyone, including those accused the benefit of the doubt until we know otherwise. For now, I believe Coach Miles will do the what is right for the accused, the University and the team.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:16 pm to tiger chaser
quote:
Is LSU headed in the right direction?
quote:9-3 > 11-2 ???
No the program is not! It's not the program Miles inherited it has slipped.
And your planet is?
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:19 pm to BeeFense5
quote:Sad and pitiful as they are, I do find some humor in their "logic", as they make such complete idiots of themselves trying to explain how -- in 5 years -- Saban recruited talent that could not do better than 9-3 with the greatest person to ever attempt anything in the history of the world (Saban) coaching them, but then was somehow magically talented enough to go 11-2, 11-2 and 12-2 the next three years with the most colossal idiotic to ever chew lead paint (Miles) leading them.
The same people that have hated miles, Will continue to hate him regardless.
They cannot accept the simple truth that Miles did FAR more (34-6 and a National Championship) in those three years with what Saban left behind when he scurried away from his sinking ship than what Saban was able to accomplish with them (9-3 and an embarrassing loss to Iowa in the Cap1 Bowl). It's even funnier when they try to refute this by pointing to all that Saban accomplished in his first 4 years, with DiNardo's recruits still around.
Come to think of it, of the three LSU coaches to win more than 10 games in a season, Miles might be the only one to have done it without ANY of the previous coach's players on his roster.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:28 pm to King Joey
this year will answer the question. we had a couple of bad years followed by a good last year.
if we lose 3 or more games this year it will be 3 of the last four years with 3 or more losses. thats headed in the wrong direction but not crumblinng (depending on how many losses this year).
if we have a record at least as good as last year lm has righted the ship and we are on course.
if we lose 3 or more games this year it will be 3 of the last four years with 3 or more losses. thats headed in the wrong direction but not crumblinng (depending on how many losses this year).
if we have a record at least as good as last year lm has righted the ship and we are on course.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 12:09 am to Genghis Khan
no
Posted on 8/29/11 at 12:19 am to T DOG
Yes
Posted on 8/29/11 at 3:30 am to Genghis Khan
quote:
Do you think we are a stronger program today than we were in 2007?
Yes. Next question please.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 7:57 am to Uncommon Cents
quote:Your issue (and that of many other apologists on here), is that you look at critiques and analysis of real issues as somehow being catastrophic. You turn every issue, every critique or analysis, into a cheerleading LSU and Miles, poster bashing free for all with no real insight at all. You 'show up and throw up', providing nothing of value to the board.
The catastrophy syndrome is never far from a lot of the LSU drama divas around here.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 8:49 am to Tiger_n_ATL
Miles didn't deserve the increase in the buyout close, stupid move by LSU
Posted on 8/29/11 at 8:58 am to josh336
well neither his chizik. thats just the nature of the business. win a nc and they give you the farm.
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