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re: Is Les Miles best college football coach in America?
Posted on 3/6/12 at 3:30 am to Lonnie4LSU
Posted on 3/6/12 at 3:30 am to Lonnie4LSU
We snuck out of tuscaloosa with a win on nov 5, people need to stop kidding themselves. Les is a great motivator, but Saban's the best coach in the country bar none. LSU just has the most versatile and confident group of athletes in the country right now so we can beat anyone, anytime and anywhere on a given day. It aint the coaching as we all saw on Jan 9
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Posted on 3/6/12 at 3:44 am to ezrulz
If its not coaching then how is Saban with 3 first rounders and all the talent from this years team lose 3 games in 2010? Just talent doesn't win games. Anyone who thinks that is dumb.
This post was edited on 3/6/12 at 3:45 am
Posted on 3/6/12 at 3:52 am to Rickdaddy4188
They only lost 1 this year. It takes time to get a defense as in sync as bama was this year, but when they get to that point, they set records. The 09 bama defense was nasty, but this year's was even better. I hate to admit it but Nick has improved as a coach and recruiter since he left LSU. Les just has to make his guys want it more which is what he does best, so he's definitely the right guy for the job right now. But we're not more talented and definitely not a better coached team than bama at this point. But that's ok cause we're better than everyone else and we always have enough to kick their arse, so play ball
This post was edited on 3/6/12 at 4:00 am
Posted on 3/6/12 at 3:57 am to ezrulz
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Saban's the best coach in the country bar none
Few would disagree with this. I still love having Miles as a coach.
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:19 am to Navytiger74
If you're a true LSU fan you have to love him because he knows how to build a SOLID team and he motivates his kids to play their asses off. That's as much as anyone can ask of a guy. You don't have to be known as the best in the business AS LONG AS YOU CAN ALWAYS BEAT THE BEST in the business. And if you beat them with any kind of regularity then you can say whatever the hell you want and no one can question it because you did your job as well as anyone. This is the world of Les Miles. I dont know what the future holds, but people better get onboard or get runover, because Saban aint the only one gettin better and Les doesnt have to stray too far from his own backyard to find the best talent in the universe. 
This post was edited on 3/6/12 at 4:22 am
Posted on 3/6/12 at 4:50 am to Akit1
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Changes daily. One day he's the best, next day he loses and he's ripped apart and said to be a moron.
Anybody ever seen the movies "Sybil" or the "The 3 faces of Eve?" One of the "Moron" personalities must have taken over when Les woke up on the morning of 1/9/12 and stayed dominant for at least 24 hours.
The LSU nation doesn't have any idea to predict when and where and for how long the "Moron Personality" will emerge either.
You don't just go into a "Deer in the Headlights" mode by displaying a mysterious brain freeze to the nation that ultimately cost your team a legitimate chance at another title. Can't do something like that and be considered the best.
So until that condition is addressed, treated and eliminated, please drop any talk of Miles being considered the number one college football coach in America.
Let's just say he's one of the best, but has "Problematic Inconsistancies" that prevent him from being ranked higher.
Posted on 3/6/12 at 5:10 am to DrD
East, no. Can LSU replace him? No.
And thats been my shtick. Lots of ranters want to believe we can get a better coach. shite gruden this gruden that, jerry rice as our wr coach, you get the point.
He is not the best coach, but damn if he isnt top 3five with the way some programs have just hit the shitter. But i will say we very may well have one of the best men i have ever met as our head coach. Looking back now, and yes it is hard to judge what ither coaches do, but LSU made the rt hire at the time we needed it. Other sec programs have been waiting on LSU to get back to the barely there indy bowl days of being either middle of the oack or flat out worse than vandy. 7 years later it hasnt happened.
That is not a sign of a decent coach or a good coach, we have a great coach. Not all of them are perfect, not every fanbase is perfect. Im an arsenal fan and question Arsene Wengers tactics, but what do i really know? Nothing compared to any professional coach of any sport. The problem is, a lot of people think they could do better.
You dont think Boston is in an uproar over the way the sox and the pats bowed out? Those frickers are crazier than we are.
And thats been my shtick. Lots of ranters want to believe we can get a better coach. shite gruden this gruden that, jerry rice as our wr coach, you get the point.
He is not the best coach, but damn if he isnt top 3five with the way some programs have just hit the shitter. But i will say we very may well have one of the best men i have ever met as our head coach. Looking back now, and yes it is hard to judge what ither coaches do, but LSU made the rt hire at the time we needed it. Other sec programs have been waiting on LSU to get back to the barely there indy bowl days of being either middle of the oack or flat out worse than vandy. 7 years later it hasnt happened.
That is not a sign of a decent coach or a good coach, we have a great coach. Not all of them are perfect, not every fanbase is perfect. Im an arsenal fan and question Arsene Wengers tactics, but what do i really know? Nothing compared to any professional coach of any sport. The problem is, a lot of people think they could do better.
You dont think Boston is in an uproar over the way the sox and the pats bowed out? Those frickers are crazier than we are.
Posted on 3/6/12 at 5:40 am to DrD
Number one in my heart??!
Posted on 3/6/12 at 6:47 am to DrD
In the top 3 to 5 but not the best. Very good but not the best college football coach in America IMO. 
Posted on 3/6/12 at 7:14 am to ezrulz
quote:
Les is a great motivator
quote:Not evident on 1-9-12. This was almost bigger disappoint than losing.
he motivates his kids to play their asses off
There were a couple other sleepwalks LSU won on talent alone also.
Maybe some games kids just aren't motivateable, but not on Crystal night.
Posted on 3/6/12 at 9:29 am to Rickdaddy4188
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If its not coaching then how is Saban with 3 first rounders and all the talent from this years team lose 3 games in 2010? Just talent doesn't win games.
A head coach is only as good as his assistants.
Miles is not the best coach, if he were he would have been able to surpass the fiasco he created with the co-defensive coordinators.
Posted on 3/6/12 at 9:37 am to I Speak As I Please
He's an enigma.
Not the best, not the worst. He attains 'best' status, then self-destructs publicly almost as if the 'best' status is too much for him to handle.
Personally, I don't think his whole style of 'motivation' without the x's and o's and strategy to back it up is capable of 'best' status. It can be very good, but it's incomplete.
On defense we have all the pieces in place, but on offense we do not. Find a great OC and stop meddling, and I bet we could obtain best status on both D and O.
Not the best, not the worst. He attains 'best' status, then self-destructs publicly almost as if the 'best' status is too much for him to handle.
Personally, I don't think his whole style of 'motivation' without the x's and o's and strategy to back it up is capable of 'best' status. It can be very good, but it's incomplete.
On defense we have all the pieces in place, but on offense we do not. Find a great OC and stop meddling, and I bet we could obtain best status on both D and O.
Posted on 3/6/12 at 9:38 am to rbdallas
Les brings a package of qualities that qualifies him as ONE of the best in the nation. The program, conference, and recruiting pool he enjoys helps with the final product: his W/L record.
Les also has glaring flaws that detract from that final product, as evidenced by 1/9 and several games over the last three years.
Les also has glaring flaws that detract from that final product, as evidenced by 1/9 and several games over the last three years.
Posted on 3/6/12 at 9:44 am to DrD
Ummm No, but he is a great coach and even better person. Just not sure what happened with JL situation? Needs to develop players and game plan better when we have nice leads in 3rd and 4th quarter. Needs to be able to move to different game plan easier when things aren't working for 2.5 to 3 quarters of play.
Does get a lot out of his players.
Does get a lot out of his players.
Posted on 3/6/12 at 9:46 am to DrD
ARE YOU CRAZY? He is!
Posted on 3/6/12 at 9:47 am to nitwit
quote:
Les brings a package of qualities that qualifies him as ONE of the best in the nation. The program, conference, and recruiting pool he enjoys helps with the final product: his W/L record. Les also has glaring flaws that detract from that final product, as evidenced by 1/9 and several games over the last three years.
That make make LSU one of the top programs in the country during the last 7-8 years, it does not make Miles the best coach.
First of all , define "BEST"..
I do not define BEST only the team record, but by performances when matched directly with the same caliber of coach.
I did not see BEST in the NC game.
Even then (based on record) BEST is elusive as asst coaches play a very large part in it.
For me (my definition of BEST) for any coach, in any sport ...is reserved for those who can take talent at their "existence" and develop it beyond what they thought they could achieve.
I have not seen that from Miles.
Posted on 3/6/12 at 9:58 am to tigercat70
hes second until he gets the ring next year... then he becomes number one
Posted on 3/6/12 at 10:09 am to DrD
Personally I feel like there are more than a few coaches out there that could have similar results with this program since the saban era..
Posted on 3/6/12 at 10:24 am to DrD
It's a subjective issue. There is no right, factual answer.
Take the top 5, list their accomplishments and let the facts make the case. He's certainly in the top 5 performers.
Take the top 5, list their accomplishments and let the facts make the case. He's certainly in the top 5 performers.
Posted on 3/6/12 at 10:26 am to rbdallas
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That make make LSU one of the top programs in the country during the last 7-8 years, it does not make Miles the best coach.
First of all , define "BEST"..
I do not define BEST only the team record, but by performances when matched directly with the same caliber of coach.
I did not see BEST in the NC game.
Even then (based on record) BEST is elusive as asst coaches play a very large part in it.
For me (my definition of BEST) for any coach, in any sport ...is reserved for those who can take talent at their "existence" and develop it beyond what they thought they could achieve.
I have not seen that from Miles.
Nice post. Like the old addage says , "He can take his and beat yours or take yours and beat his"...if you can't say that, the coach isn't the best.
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