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re: Is Jerrard Randall #2?

Posted on 7/11/12 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61583 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 12:11 pm to
Fair point
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
8119 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

I'm asking because I really want to know, why do fans WANT this kid to go run 3 or 4 plays a game so that we can have designed runs that every coach in the SEC will pick up on?


1. Because Mett could leave after this season and I'd rather have our QB's next year to have some significant game experience (both Randall and Rivers)

2. Because Mett could get injured we will need both Rivers and Randall to play. Young QB's almost always have a bad day here and there, and having two allows you to swap out to calm down one that has nerves.

3. And if every play is a designed run and our opponents start to key on, it only takes one play-action pass to make that worthwhile.

4. The experience Randall and/or Rivers gets in a game now has a better chance of helping us win a game a year or two from now than it does of costing us a game this year (when Mett has an opportunity to step back on the field and erase any deficit created)

I want to keep reloading rather than rebuilding, and to do that you have to get younger guys some playing time even if they aren't the best man at the position. We do this for every other position on the field. We need to get these guys ready.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Winnfield, LA
Member since Jul 2008
22919 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 1:04 pm to
mett needs to stop wearing flatbills IMHO
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7799 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 2:06 pm to
Pics or gtfo lol jk
Posted by Corndawg
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
378 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

That's tight. You getting a little heated over there Lil man? I never said it was a race thing, you brought that up. I said it sounds personal. Maybe it's bc you feel like the QB is the face of the program and he shouldn't be sporting those neck tats. IDK. And by the way we talking about practice son practice! We all know how JJ looked in practice. The kid had a solid outing in the spring game. Give him a chance to get his feet wet. You need to pump the kid up instead of tearing him down bc he might really be one play away from being on that field.


And just how in the world could I say anything personal about a kid I've never met or spoken to? I will always get heated when someone throws out a moronic insinuation of me being racist only to try and say who that's not what I meant.. What are you 20 years old ??? I bet you vote liberal Dem don't you?

And since you claim to have been all world in athletics, I'm assuming you practiced hard and your play was reflective of your practice??? At least that's how our coaches determined who played.

You're still not getting it, I'm not saynig the kid doesn't have a future here I just think it's an immediate future here.
This post was edited on 7/11/12 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Corndawg
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
378 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 2:15 pm to
Also since everyone is so quick to give our 3rd teamer a lot of playing time maybe we should all stop to think that our STARTER hasn't done anything in a meaningful game either.

One of our admitted downfalls last year is that we didn't take advantage of times when we could have worked on our passing game and it bit us when we needed it so .... Maybe it should be a little more important to let our starter get as much as possible...
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7799 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 3:26 pm to
You are the insider of all insiders remember? You chop it up on a regular with starters and what not. I'm sure your views on how a person votes will be much appreciated on the poli board champ! Once again you are not seeing what others including myself are saying. A couple of snaps on predetermined wildcat/option plays would not be bad in situations that present itself such as short yardage. I personally think people are worried that this will cause a qb controversy(don't worry I still think its personal with u). Settle down people that will not be the case. Mmmkay Pumpkin!(no homo)
Posted by Corndawg
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
378 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 3:41 pm to
Just with the interns 3 days a week... I don't know if that's regular or not but whatever you say.

I ask about your voting didn't imply or say you did.. That was based on your lack of assumption of responsibility for your comments.

I don't think this team is any danger of a QB controversy and you're right I hope he dies in a plane crash.. because he has tat's, oh yeah I have 13 of them as well.

And again you don't disappoint with the elementary attempt at an insult... To think all of this because you tried to be smartass and ended losing the smart part and just looking like an arse.

Our team is not built from gimmick plays and since we've got 5 RB's that can get 2-3 yards on short yardage plays it's not needed for us to be successful. Ya'll are right though, we should take practice time away from our starter with the #1 offense to work on some trick plays with our 3rd team backup. I don't know why I ever challenged your football prowess.
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7799 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 5:30 pm to
Corndawg u thug u?

We all know its not proper to ask about someones political views on the rant thats why there is a political board.

Since when is the option a gimmick play, or Trick play? Comon you should know better than that. Also you could never challenge my football prowess or anything for that matter.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
8119 posts
Posted on 7/11/12 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

Also since everyone is so quick to give our 3rd teamer a lot of playing time maybe we should all stop to think that our STARTER hasn't done anything in a meaningful game either.


I agree with you on this one, and I wasn't happy with this last year. Mett should have seen a lot more PT last year. We had big leads by the 3rd quarter of almost every game.

Now please, let's have more discussion and less hurling shite at each other.

...And I agree, politics just should not be mentioned on the rant. I'm sick of the fighting and name calling. Take it elsewhere.
Posted by Corndawg
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
378 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 8:04 am to
quote:

predetermined wildcat/option


You didn't just say the option, the wildcat is a gimmick offense.

And your picture didn't disappoint, bout what I figured you looked like.

I'll withdraw my political question

You still don't know jack about football but I'll end this silly little back and forth and move on to other discussion's...
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7799 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 8:36 am to
I guess Bama, Auburn with cam and Arky with Gus and McFadden ran gimmick offenses. Nothing gimmicky about a power run out of a wildcat look. That's what RP did. Deuces
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Sadly this might involve short-side options...


thats my second least favorite call next to the quick dump pass bihind the line that nets -5 to +2 yards
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 8:49 am to
quote:

Just say they put him in for the "change of pace" everyone wants and he runs a short side option.


Posted by Corndawg
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
378 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 8:54 am to
All I got was a red X

Posted by Corndawg
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
378 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 8:59 am to
I guess Bama, Auburn with cam and Arky with Gus and McFadden ran gimmick offenses

Bama got picked off Reid, Cam was the EVERY down QB, and McFadden was the EVERY down starter at RB that was an off the chart athlete that finished 2nd in the Heisman twice before being a 1st round draft pick... The wildcat is a gimmick..

RP did'nt run the wildcat at all, he may have had some designed draw plays or delays and a couple of designed options here or there but RP was always a throw first guy that could run when called or needed... That's why he threw for 3x the yardage he ran for threw for 4x the TD's.

Deuces is the number of times you've been right in this entire thread.
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7799 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:06 am to
So who is saying Randall is a run first qb? That seems to be your assumption. So is Oklahoma's version of it gimmicky or does it take away from their offense. Nope bc the numbers don't lie. If it wasn't for Flynns injuries RP plays the exact role that Randall will play which will be to come in and run those designed draws and short side options.
Posted by sstig
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
2877 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:39 am to
The whole team's attitude is better when everybody gets to play in the game. I want everybody to play and get experience. I'm STILL
mad at saban for Mauck being in so late in a blow out at Florida and running the ball.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10325 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

Every player on this team doesn't want to go through what they did last year on offense
I know for fact you're quite misinformed or flat out fabricating this.
The 2011 offense was one of the best in LSU history and many, if not all, players are proud of the season's accomplishments.
This thread has gone full tard since you jumped in.
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3005 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

The 2011 offense was one of the best in LSU history and many, if not all, players are proud of the season's accomplishments


IF you look at the season as a whole then sure they should be proud. If any of them say they are happy with the performance of the offense in the CC or NC game I would be very worried. That is the equivalent of JJ being quoted as thinking he played well after putting up 4 yards of total offense in a game. Coincidentally the qb in the CC and NC game was none other than JJ but am sure Mayhaw can spin how well offensively we played in those games. Maybe some spreadsheets and charts to prove it.

As for me I believe the 2011 offense was very good for most of the season but was greatly aided by the defense who scored several times and set up many short field drives and the special teams which scored and set up many short touchdown drives as well which made the scoring average look better hence the offense looked better. Even more coincidentally the special teams and defense were probably most evident in the Arky and UGA games making their inability to do so in the NC game expose the offense led excusively and entirely by none other than Jordan Jefferson even more than some had suspected.

Lastly feel free Mayhawman to explain how in particular how thrilled Ruben Randle was at the performance of the offense in the CC and NC games in particular and you can also explain why his production reduced so drastically once JJ was solely at the helm?????? I am sure it had everything to do with Ruben not performing as opposed to JJ not being able to throw to him.
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