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re: Is it arrogance or confidence that Coach Orgeron possesses
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:32 pm to Tiger Ree
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:32 pm to Tiger Ree
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This also is an example of how impressive Coach O's run has been. He took over not one but two programs on losing skids, fired HC's and turned them into winners that finished ranked at the end of the season. The only coach ever to take over two programs during the season after the regular HC's had been fired to be able to do that.
we didn't hire O for 8 games.
also, I find it wonderful that its now considered ok to lose to 14 point underdogs that was missing tons of defensive starters. that sounds just like the last regime that you deemed unacceptable.
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And he runs the program just like he would if he wasn't an interim. Coach O fired, hired, promoted, made changes to on-campus recruiting, changes to practices,
it's amazing watching You tout all this and then when we look like shite you remove the blame by saying," come on he couldn't change anything".
the fact is that if any AD actually thought being an interim coach was running a program, O wouldnt have been sitting on his arse when Miles called an offered him a positions coach job.
the only people that believe being an interim coach is the same as actually running a program are the people trying to pass this hire off as acceptable.
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Because there is no difference at all between the two.
people that say this either don't know shite about football or they re trying to pass this unqualified hire off as acceptable.
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The only reason USC did not hire Coach O as their permanent head coach was because of Pat Haden. Pat Haden is no longer at USC.
you have no idea what youre talking about. why hasn't anyone else given him a job? was o turning down coordinator job offers?
face facts. the only people that think Ed Orgeron is an acceptable hire are football ignorant lsu fans and our clown AD.
for 29 of his 32 year career no ad has thought enough of his coaching to give him a job above position coach.
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 8:41 pm
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Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:34 pm to Broski
Does anyone honestly think any Coach coming in should be different? O has to be a leader. He's succeeding so far with that both on and off the field.
Maybe he doesn't fulfill your preference for whatever reason but he does fill the purpose - that's what matters. Just Win!
Maybe he doesn't fulfill your preference for whatever reason but he does fill the purpose - that's what matters. Just Win!
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:37 pm to Tiger Ree
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Coach O was doing everything a permanent head coach does from day 1 at LSU.
holy shite.
you're the same poster that doesnt give Tom Herman credit for his 1st year at Houston because it wasnt his program and now you want to give a dline coach credit during an interim tenure.
you talk yourself into a corner with your own ignorant logic.
you've said you don't Miles credit for the 1st 3 years at lsu and yet you want to a Dline coach the credit during an interim tenure.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:39 pm to Broski
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Why is this the hypothetical you use?
It's an example of an SEC team that is not laughing that LSU hired it's D-line coach a permanent head coach. Coach O took LSU to Arkansas and beat them 38-10 with a TE's coach running the offense. He has now hired a Broyles Award finalist as OC.
Arkansas is not laughing and if another SEC school had hired LSU's D-line coach as their head coach and he came to Tiger Stadium and kicked LSU's arse, LSU fans would not be laughing either. They'd be crapping their drawers after Coach O hired Matt Canada and was coming for some more and worse arse kicking this coming season.
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:42 pm to Broski
Okay. You'll acknowledge Coach O had a successful year with what record?
I am more than willing to accept we failed if we go less than 8-4 with a major bowl.
Bama hired numerous coaches after Stallings trying to bring back the magic. Auburn did the same. OM has been searching for 40-50. A&M is stuck with a 8-5 coach that was the saving grace when he came on board. Birkenstock is below 50% at Arky. State is the only program in the West that can manage expectations.
I am more than willing to accept we failed if we go less than 8-4 with a major bowl.
Bama hired numerous coaches after Stallings trying to bring back the magic. Auburn did the same. OM has been searching for 40-50. A&M is stuck with a 8-5 coach that was the saving grace when he came on board. Birkenstock is below 50% at Arky. State is the only program in the West that can manage expectations.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:43 pm to go ta hell ole miss
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I am more than willing to accept we failed if we go less than 8-4 with a major bowl.
How is 9-3 acceptable?
We fired Miles for that shite.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:45 pm to Broski
Don't worry. The goal posts have already been moved. O is ONE A US so 8-9 wins is A-OK.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:46 pm to Tiger Ree
You're still melting?
You jive turkey.
You jive turkey.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:48 pm to Tiger Ree
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It's an example of an SEC team that is not laughing that LSU hired it's D-line coach a permanent head coach.
HOLY shite.
ED OREGON WOULDN'T BE A TOP 5 DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR CANDIDATE AT ANY SEC PROGRAM and you think LSU fans wouldn't be making funof another program hiring him?
every other sec program knows tbat the only time ed orgeron was allowed to run a program it culminated in the worst tenure ever at a program full of shite tenures. they aren't looking at what ed orgeron can do with a miles built roster and neither would you if it were anyone other than O. you prove that when talking about Tom Hermanxs 1st year at Houston.
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Coach O took LSU to Arkansas and beat them 38-10 with a TE's coach running the offense.
again giving a dline coach the credit when the offense looks good and then using them as an excuse for us looking bad
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Arkansas is not laughing and if another SEC school had hired LSU's D-line coach as their head coach
yes they are and so would you if it were anyone other than Ed Orgeron. we laughed at auburn taking our DC to be their DC. we blasted a&m for takimg Chief and he is one of the most accomplished dc in can.
Ed Orgeron has never in his life proven he can run a successful defense let alone a program and you think other programs arent laughing at lsu?
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:50 pm to go ta hell ole miss
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I am more than willing to accept we failed if we go less than 8-4 with a major bowl.
wow. how the goal posts have fallen. it's becoming very clear that there are lsu fans ok with losing 4 games based on who the coach is.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:02 pm to Broski
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How is 9-3 acceptable?
We fired Miles for that shite.
Are you serious? You're not worth discussing with if that's what you think.
Les hung himself by not fixing the Offense. It wasn't his record (although his record should have been better).
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:07 pm to Bayou
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It wasn't his record (although his record should have been better)
Horse shite!! Complete horse shite.
If Les won 10+ games every season after 2011 even with that bore-arse offense, he'd damn sure still be here.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:08 pm to Bayou
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Les hung himself by not fixing the Offense. It wasn't his record
Yeah, it absolutely was his record. We had too much talent to do what he did with our teams his last few years. Part of the reason he had an underperforming record was his offense. Winning cures all ills, including a boring offense.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:08 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I find it wonderful that its now considered ok to lose to 14 point underdogs that was missing tons of defensive starters.
LSU outgained that team 423-270 in total yards. LSU made mistakes and because of that have 3 new offensive coaches.
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it's amazing watching You tout all this and then when we look like shite you remove the blame by saying," come on he couldn't change anything".
If you are talking about the Bama game again, he had been on the job a total of three weeks leading up to that game. Is that enough time to make wholesale changes to a football program?
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the fact is that if any AD actually thought being an interim coach was running a program, O wouldnt have been sitting on his arse when Miles called an offered him a positions coach job.
You state this as a fact. I think Coach O would have been the next HC at Arkansas if he wasn't already the HC at LSU. It's not like every football team in the country during the 2014 football season didn't have a head coach and needed to hire one.
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the only people that believe being an interim coach is the same as actually running a program are the people trying to pass this hire off as acceptable
That and the people who make the decisions for the Clemson football program and every other program that has hired the interim coach as the permanent head coach. This isn't the first time this has happened since you apparently don't realize that fact.
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people that say this either don't know shite about football or they re trying to pass this unqualified hire off as acceptable.
Or they know what they are talking about. Part of the reason Coach O is the head man at LSU right now, I'm sure.
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you have no idea what youre talking about.
I posted links. Go read them and get back to me about what I have an idea about.
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why hasn't anyone else given him a job? was o turning down coordinator job offers?
He's the head coach at LSU, he doesn't need a job. Les Miles needs a job. Why doesn't he have one?
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face facts. the only people that think Ed Orgeron is an acceptable hire are football ignorant lsu fans and our clown AD.
It's actually EVERYBODY, including USC fans, alum, former players, etc, , except a small but vocal group of idiot LSU fans who love crying about the past and refuse to look at the positive changes the new head coach of LSU has made to improve the program.
Have to cry about something and you can't cry about the positive changes he has made at LSU so you continue to cry about history. Good for you man.
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for 29 of his 32 year
I bet 50 to 53. Ancient history is fun, isn't it.
Oh, there is a thread on the Rant with that is about Matt Canada. It has an audio clip. At the beginning of the clip maybe 3 1/2 minutes in Canada mentions the coaching staff numbers.
Did you know LSU only has 9 coaches? Can you imagine he didn't specifically name Coach Sharon and Coach Austin as defensive or offensive coaches? That dude is full of shite. Either that or you are, I'm going to go with you because Sharon and Austin are NOT coaches on the LSU team.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:12 pm to Bayou
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Maybe he doesn't fulfill your preference for whatever reason but he does fill the purpose
That's what all this crap is about.
Some wanted to keep Les Miles - RichMomma
Some wanted the gay guy that kisses his players and finished sixth in his conference despite having the most talented team - RichMomma
Now they are pissed and throwing temper tantrums in every thread because the loveable loser (recently) and gay guy are not at LSU.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:16 pm to Tiger Ree
Now tell me why Syracuse passed on him ?
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:17 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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you're the same poster that doesnt give Tom Herman
You are obsessed with the kissing bandit like really crazy, aren't you. The gay guy made the decision to not come to LSU. Get over it. What the frick does it matter if I give him credit for his first season.
I'm glad he is not at LSU because of his second season. the one where he finished in sixth place despite having the most talented team.
Did you look at the thread title before you jumped in this thread to spew your same old very tired shite?
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you've said you don't Miles credit for the 1st 3 years
I have never said that. Quit making shite up.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:20 pm to Broski
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We fired Miles for that shite.
Miles got fired for un-kept promises. If he had opened the offense up a little bit he would still be at LSU.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:20 pm to SeekGreatness
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Horse shite!! Complete horse shite.
If Les won 10+ games every season after 2011 even with that bore-arse offense, he'd damn sure still be here.
You can't win the division without beating Bama. He lost 5 in a row and refused to fix the offense. That's what did him in. The way he lost to Wisconsin was more than enough to stop the charade.
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:20 pm to Tiger Ree
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Tiger Ree
I really hope this experiment turns out a 10+ win per season average for LSU, but if it doesn't, your arse is gonna be rightfully crucified.
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