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re: Is Ben one and done?
Posted on 1/22/16 at 2:54 pm to CorporateTiger
Posted on 1/22/16 at 2:54 pm to CorporateTiger
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Dirk is the prototype stretch 4. Ben is a point forward
Is there a big market in the NBA for 'point forwards' ?
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:04 pm to boxcar willie
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Is there a big market in the NBA for 'point forwards' ?
Yes, you can find almost all of them in the NBA hall of fame. More specifically, you can find them on the NBA top 20 list. They are EXTREMELY rare.
They tend to go #1 overall in the NBA draft too
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:05 pm to boxcar willie
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With a deadly jump shot (like a Dirk Nowitzki) could be as good as Dirk. But that is a big if since he at this time has zero jump shot ability from beyond 6 feet. Plus Nowitzki is way more physical and tough.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:08 pm to GTownTiger21
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I would say that Ben is more like Anthony Davis..... but then again Davis can shoot from the outside.
Anthony Davis had a terrible shot coming out of college. He shot less than 35% mid range.
He developed into an outside shooter, improving year to year. Now he's one of the best spot shooters from the top of the key in the NBA.
AD is a very good comparison to him. AD is longer and blocks more shots, but doesn't handle the ball or pass as well as Simmons.
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Simmons will be top 3 in the draft for sure, but i dont think he will go #1. Buddy Hield from OU is a good player and could go in front of Simmons.
Simmons is a lock for #1 unless some freak injury happens
Buddy Hield MIGHT go top 5, but he certainly isn't a lock for it. He's a DAMN good player, but he's still a 6'4 SG
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:09 pm to boxcar willie
Magic, Bird, and Lebron are all pretty good examples of different styles of Point Forward
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:12 pm to TigerBait1127
can't wait till about this time next year so that I can see a future hall of fame point forward in action at the beginning stages of his NBA career
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:22 pm to boxcar willie
Anthony Davis isn't a point forward. There seriously hasn't been a guy with Ben Simmons measurables and ball skills available in the draft for a decade or more.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:24 pm to ewilliams000
How in the hell did this go nine pages?
A simple yes /thread would have sufficed.
A simple yes /thread would have sufficed.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:34 pm to TigerBait1127
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AD is a very good comparison to him
and you want to call me a dumbass
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:47 pm to boxcar willie
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and you want to call me a dumbass
1, when did I do that? But you did compare him to Dirk citing his toughness
2, way to take that sentence completely out of context. It was from a shooting ability standpoint.
In college, they have similar range and limitations. They have similar builds and athleticism.
I commented on the differences in playing style. There isn't really an NBA player he compares to in terms of style, ability, size, potential, etc.
He'll be an elite transition player at day 1 in the NBA, and more and more teams like to run.
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:47 pm to ewilliams000
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Without demeaning his talent I think he should play college ball for at least one more year.
Simple math. There is no higher draft pick than #1. So if he is that guy he gains nothing by staying.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 4:19 pm to TigerBait1127
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There isn't really an NBA player he compares to in terms of style, ability, size, potential, etc.
fair enough, I agree with that. But I just think that a lot of what people see in him is based off potential, which I guess could be said about just about every NBA draft pick. But there are some players you can see right away that they are going to be stars in the NBA, for me, Its just not so obvious with Simmons. But on the other hand, I can see his potential is off the charts (if he toughens up, which he will, and develops into a good shooter, which no reason to believe he won't.)
I am a fan and I just think his career in the NBA is going to be very interesting to watch
Posted on 1/22/16 at 4:22 pm to boxcar willie
That's more than fair enough
Posted on 1/22/16 at 4:43 pm to CorporateTiger
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Hield's age will keep him from being #1 overall
This is just stupid... He may not go #1 but it wont be because of his age...
Posted on 1/22/16 at 5:11 pm to dukke v
Seniors get downgraded in the draft, it is just a fact.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 5:12 pm to ewilliams000
Please let this thread die already
Posted on 1/22/16 at 5:12 pm to boxcar willie
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Is there a big market in the NBA for 'point forwards' ?
Ask LeBron James
Posted on 1/22/16 at 5:23 pm to ewilliams000
Of course he's one and done. Why would he come back, won't increase his draft position missing NCAA's next year too.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 5:30 pm to boxcar willie
quote:Steph Curry is one of the best 3 point shooters in the NBA. He was a shooting guard most of the time in college.
But if he develops a really great jump shot he could be like a really tall Steph Curry.
By far the best comparison to Simmons is Danny Manning with an inside game like Joe Smith.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 5:37 pm to ewilliams000
Since everyone else is weighing in on this glorious topic:
I agree with OP.
1 more year!
I agree with OP.
1 more year!
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