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re: Is Andrew Whitworth the GOAT of offensive linemen?
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:54 am to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:54 am to H-Town Tiger
Larry Allen...made all-pro at tackle and guard. He is also the most physically dominant guard to ever play. 700 plus lb bench press and who could forget him running down the Saints Darrian Conner on Monday Night football in 1994?
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:54 am to H-Town Tiger
Thomas was a top 5 pick while Whitworth went in the 2nd round and started out playing guard.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 9:56 am
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:55 am to Big Gorilla
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Orlando Pace is in the Hall of Fame jackass.
So is Ogden and he was not mentioned by any of you
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 9:58 am
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:57 am to OU812
So? What does that have to do with anything. Whitworth is a great player maybe a HOF but this narrative that he’s over looked because he played for a shitty franchise is plainly false.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:58 am to H-Town Tiger
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The Bengals made the playoffs 6 times with Whitworth. The Browns zero with Joe Thomas, why was Thomas more decorated if team success is the factor you claim?
Joe Thomas was a unanimous all american and outland trophy winner in college and a top 5 pick. He always had the fame.
Not to discount him, he was one of the best to ever do it.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:00 am to H-Town Tiger
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So? What does that have to do with anything. Whitworth is a great player maybe a HOF but this narrative that he’s over looked because he played for a shitty franchise is plainly false.
Your opinion, all good. I think he deserved several more All-Pros than he received but was passed up. My theory is because he was on the Bengals and never had any fame or name recognition going into the league.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:01 am to CatfishJohn
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Joe Thomas was a unanimous all american and outland trophy winner in college and a top 5 pick. He always had the fame.
Again what does that have to do with being recognized in the pros? You know how many non first round picks become stars (not just skill positions)
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:05 am to mcspufftiger7
No but a good one
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:05 am to mcspufftiger7
He's not even the GOAT OL from LSU
It goes:
Alan Faneca
Kevin Mawae
CharlesLSU
Erik Andolsek
Doug Planchard
Andrew Whitworth
It goes:
Alan Faneca
Kevin Mawae
CharlesLSU
Erik Andolsek
Doug Planchard
Andrew Whitworth
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 10:08 am
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:06 am to H-Town Tiger
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Again what does that have to do with being recognized in the pros?
star power does sway the voters, good ex. is Cliff Harris, undrafted from Ouachita Baptist, beat out bigger college "names" to become a starter, one of the best safeties to play the game, would probably be banned today because of how hard of a hitter he was, just made the NFL HoF last year
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:09 am to CatfishJohn
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I think he deserved several more All-Pros than he received but was passed up. My theory is because he was on the Bengals and never had any fame or name recognition going into the league.
No offense but it sounds like you are just creating a narrative because he’s a guy you like from your school. This is also a prime example of the laziness of the win it all or you suck standard. The Bengals made the playoffs 6 times when he was there. His career overlaps some with Chad Johnson who was very high profile. Maybe just maybe Whitworth didn’t make more pro bowls because while he was good there were other players that were better?
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 10:13 am
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:12 am to 777Tiger
Cliff Harris just making the HOF has nothing to do with where he went to college or where he was drafted 
He played for Americas team at its peak
He played for Americas team at its peak
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:14 am to H-Town Tiger
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Cliff Harris just making the HOF has nothing to do with where he went to college or where he was drafted
yes it does, you've seen lesser guys get in before him for decades, from shittier teams because they were more flashy and/or had more interceptions returned for scores, that shite absolutely factors in with HoF voters
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:20 am to Big Gorilla
I agree, Whitworth has been a really good player for a very long time. That being said, I have never regarded him as best in the league at any time in his career. Faneca and Mawae were both considered the best in the league at their position for a number of year, while Whitworth has always been considered really good.
Hopefully his outstanding performance for such a long period of time will add up to induction in the Hall of Fame.
Hopefully his outstanding performance for such a long period of time will add up to induction in the Hall of Fame.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:31 am to 777Tiger
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star power does sway the voters, good ex. is Cliff Harris, undrafted from Ouachita Baptist, beat out bigger college "names" to become a starter, one of the best safeties to play the game, would probably be banned today because of how hard of a hitter he was, just made the NFL HoF last year
And he was on national TV every week playing for the popular NFL of all-time in the 1970s.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:36 am to mcspufftiger7
Ever hear of Larry Allen?
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:37 am to OU812
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And he was on national TV every week playing for the popular NFL of all-time in the 1970s.
and he retired in 1979 and is just getting recognized? not a big deal but it just goes to the point I was trying to make
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:37 am to 777Tiger
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yes it does, you've seen lesser guys get in before him for decades, from shittier teams because they were more flashy and/or had more interceptions returned for scores, that shite absolutely factors in with HoF voters
So he got fewer picks and wasn’t as flashy because of where he went to college and was drafted late?
I’m gonna take a wild guess you are a Cowboy fan
ETA as far as “star power” there are way more “skill position” or stat positions in the Hall than OL.
The original point was Cincinnati made the playoffs multiple times with Whitworth compared to zero for the Browns with Thomas and Thomas was recognized more. So the idea that Whitworth was overlooked because the Bengals were shitty narrative doesn’t hold up. That Thomas was a higher pick is not “star” power so much as he was just a better prospect and therefore wouldn’t be surprising that he had a better career
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 10:43 am
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:39 am to mcspufftiger7
Yes. I still have a picture of myself with him standing outside of Tiger Stadium in the rain in January 2004 at the National Championship celebration.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:39 am to H-Town Tiger
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So he got fewer picks and wasn’t as flashy because of where he went to college and was drafted late?
never mind
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I’m gonna take a wild guess you are a Cowboy fan
not really but he's a friend of mine
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