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re: Inflated 40 Yard Dash Times
Posted on 2/23/15 at 6:12 pm to Datbayoubengal
Posted on 2/23/15 at 6:12 pm to Datbayoubengal
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plus most guys gain 10-20lbs during their college careers. That could make them slower or faster depending on muscle/fat, etc.
no, gaining 10-20 lbs is going to make them slower. It doesn't make them faster.
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Posted on 2/23/15 at 6:39 pm to GumboPot
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What's really amazing is Daren McFadden ran a 4.27 in the combine
No
Posted on 2/23/15 at 6:40 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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bet most NFL players were at their fastest their senior year of HS
No
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:24 pm to bayoutiger7
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It's funny to me how every 4 or 5 star position player comes out of high school supposedly running in the 4.3's or 4.4's and then they get to the combine after three to four years of college training and run significantly slower times. Our guys have really impressed in the running portion at the combine this year but there are a lot of guys who have apparently gotten slower since high school.
I've been saying for a while that if one looks at recruiting data coming into college and then again at the NFL combine, you'd have to come to the conclusion that it's absolutely expected for HS athletes to get slower over the course of their 3-4 years in college.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:25 pm to JaxTiger10
quote:Good God. There are people this stupid.
bet most NFL players were at their fastest their senior year of HS
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:25 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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I bet most NFL players were at their fastest their senior year of HS.
generally speaking, yes. Most gains after that are from improvements in technique. Most players put on a lot of muscle after high school and thus added weight.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:32 pm to boxcar willie
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generally speaking, yes. Most gains after that are from improvements in technique. Most players put on a lot of muscle after high school and thus added weight.
Herschel ran his fastest ever 100 yard dash in his junior year at UGA....a full .2 seconds faster than his senior year of HS.
He was 7 pounds heavier.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:42 pm to ShortyRob
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Herschel ran his fastest ever 100 yard dash in his junior year at UGA....a full .2 seconds faster than his senior year of HS. He was 7 pounds heavier.
didn't he stay a sprinter on the track team though? HIs technique is going to be much better than it was his senior year in high school. I would have to believe his time slowed down significantly after a couple years of NFL football and quitting track if he were to have been timed in the 100 at that point. Besides, he is kind of an exception in all sorts of ways. Most players put on a lot more weight from there senior year in high school to the start of their NFL careers.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:45 pm to QJenk
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mighty as I tried, I never ran below a 4.85, and for a guy playing D-line at 235. Nevertheless, as slow as I was, I was able to continue playing in college at D2 level. 2 years later playing weight of 255, I ran a 5.01. So I can say by experience putting on more weight, will slow you down.
this guy seems to know something about it
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:46 pm to marcnbc
But you wear shoes to play basketball and if you're 6'10 in shoes then you're 6'10 when you initially jump for a rebound.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:48 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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I bet most NFL players were at their fastest their senior year of HS.
No way. These kids are not even physically mature their senior year of high school. Track sprinters are considered to be in their prime in their mid 20s.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:34 pm to UpToPar
Thank you
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:35 pm to BigEdLSU
quote:Trust me. I've done some work with guys preparing for the combine and pro days. You'd be surprised at how little and elementary the stuff they do is. Not to mention, they don't understand how important it is so they don't take it as seriously as they should
Are you saying they don't have a huge focus on stretching? You'll slow down if you get stiff, however I would argue that they are already stretching regularly.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:40 pm to TheZaba
I'll take your word for it 
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:41 pm to BigEdLSU
But not to take away from the thread too much, times are obviously marked up, and partly just because the quality they use to measure times is so much better at the combine
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:59 pm to boxcar willie
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no, gaining 10-20 lbs is going to make them slower. It doesn't make them faster
10lbs of fat or muscle?
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:04 pm to bayoutiger7
It is like the 90 mph fastball. Put the gun on them and they are 82, topping out at 85.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 2:13 am to bayoutiger7
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It IS possible that some of these guys get a little slower as they add weight and muscle, though. They make up for it with power, but I would not be surprised that some of the skill guys are a little slower at 21 than at 18 and lighter.
could not have said it better
Posted on 2/24/15 at 3:34 am to ShortyRob
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I've been saying for a while that if one looks at recruiting data coming into college and then again at the NFL combine, you'd have to come to the conclusion that it's absolutely expected for HS athletes to get slower over the course of their 3-4 years in college.
Unless you aren't a moron, in which case you would come to the conclusion that NFL combine numbers are more accurate and less biased than HS recruiting numbers.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:35 am to TheZaba
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But not to take away from the thread too much, times are obviously marked up, and partly just because the quality they use to measure times is so much better at the combine
of course that's true also. But if they were timed to same way, most players would be slower by the time they ran at the combine than in their senor year in high school. Sprinters, while more muscular and mature at 22, don't pack on the amount of extra excess muscle that football players do after high school. Look at Usain Bolt. Muscular but still thin and lean relative a football player. Depends a lot on the position and individual athlete also. IN general they are slower.
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