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re: in 8 games, after 2 years in the system... 7 TDs and 4 INTs

Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:16 pm to
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26618 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

Kid doesn't have the physical tools needed to become an elite QB and the worst part is he knows it. And it makes him hesitant to try anything even remotely risky.


All this is false. I've seen plenty elite college QBs, and they didn't need a rocket launcher to be elite. He has tried risky throws, but I'd rather him not. I'd rather him take off for extra yardage if he feels he can't make that tight window. He has all the tools necessary to be a top QB in college, he just has to learn from his mistakes, practice hard everyday to get better, stay in the film room, and most importantly, soak up everything he can from Cam.

The guy is a true sophomore getting his first starts in the toughest division in the toughest conference of the college football world. It's going to take time and like I said, the light could easily come on against Ole Miss or Alabama. LSU fans are too dismissive of young players.
Posted by stho381
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4628 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:34 am to
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So Ole Miss is the best past rush and the best run defense. I guess we'll be lucky to have positive yardage in this game.


If you've watched them play, their DTs are extremely good and we've struggled in the middle of our OL. We'll have positive yards, but this is going to be the same type of defense we saw against Miss St.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32453 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:41 am to
AJ threw two interceptions in five minutes against New Mexico fricking state and got pulled from the game. Horrible horrible comparison. While met struggled early on certainly he was never as bad as Jennings. Also, at least met showed some progress and improvement and as others have said flashes of brilliance throughout the year. AJ seems to be getting worse as the season progresses.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66372 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 7:57 am to
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No way in hell you actually believe that



I can't believe that Dural is better than OBJ was in 2012?

How can you not?
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 7:59 am to
You do realize that Mett played under a different OC his first year, right?

Great post, man. Really insightful.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66372 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 7:59 am to
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We did have Dural in 2012. Also:


Took a redshirt after a knee injury.

quote:

So, your post makes no sense whatsoever.


They got better their junior years. Look at the numbers from 2012.
2014 Dural> 2012 Jarvis or 2012 OBJ
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 8:05 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89483 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:02 am to
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Also if Mett had a WR like Dural in 2012 he would have gone off.


2012 LSU wide receiver #3

2012 LSU wide receiver #80
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89483 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:04 am to
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They got better their senior years.


They're playing their senior year in the NFL, brah.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:04 am to
i have no idea whats going on in here
Posted by StadiumDormRat'72
BR,LA
Member since Sep 2012
2942 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:05 am to
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58.2 by my calcs.

48 yard pass.. 33 yards from far hash to sideline

48 squared + 33 squared = 58.2 squared




Hey, man, don't be coming in here with that liberal media bias math and science bullshite...
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:05 am to
Haven't you heard? The Jets are Mett's team now...
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89483 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:05 am to
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AJ seems to be getting worse as the season progresses.


Lol wut? He's been up and down, no question, but he looks to be improving with the short/intermediate range passes.

His improvement tracks the improvement in the OL play. I wonder why that is?
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:07 am to
Two people already worked the math for you and this still wasn't true.

quote:

its a little over 60


Almost every college QB can make that throw. Which was under 60 yards. 65-70 yards is where a QB has an elite arm.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66372 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:27 am to
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2012 LSU wide receiver #3

2012 LSU wide receiver #80


Neither were the deep threat that Dural is. Dural is averaging 25+ yards a catch. thats more than either Jarvis or OBJ averaged at LSU.

I am not saying Dural is better, but having a deep threat like Dural would have been huge in 2012.

I think OBJ is overaed as far as being a deep threat goes. he is fast, and hell go up and grab a ball, but he doesn't get anywhere near the separation you see with Dural or even what we would see with Rueben Randle.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:33 am to
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josh336


douche

that is all...

well, not all...you are completely wrong...41 yards? again, douche.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18134 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:46 am to
Apples and oranges.

1. Mett's first year starting was under Studrawa. AJ's first year starting is under Cam.

2. Mett's got significantly (significantly) more arm strength and throwing ability than AJ.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:50 am to
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1. Mett's first year starting was under Studrawa. AJ's first year starting is under Cam. 2. Mett's got significantly (significantly) more arm strength and throwing ability than AJ.


Yup...def this!
Posted by The Lou
Member since Oct 2007
2667 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:09 am to
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Neither were the deep threat that Dural is. Dural is averaging 25+ yards a catch. thats more than either Jarvis or OBJ averaged at LSU. I am not saying Dural is better, but having a deep threat like Dural would have been huge in 2012. I think OBJ is overaed as far as being a deep threat goes. he is fast, and hell go up and grab a ball, but he doesn't get anywhere near the separation you see with Dural or even what we would see with Rueben Randle.


Yeah I wish we had something other than two future all pros on the outside.....
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28257 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:14 am to
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Compare him to JJ long before comparing him to Mett...


That brings up a few good questions. Was JJ really THAT bad? Or better yet, was Mettenberger really THAT good? If you compare Jefferson's best season (09) and Mettenberger's best season (13) in games that really mattered (i.e. not against the rent-a-win opponents) the stats might surprise you.

2009 Jefferson (excluding games against ULL, Tulane, La.Tech and PSU)

142 - 230 62% 182 YPG 12 TDs 4 INTs

2013 Mettenberger (excluding games against UAB, Kent St. and Furman)

147 - 235 63% 245 YPG 11 TDs 6 INTs.

In the games that mattered, Jefferson and Mettenberger were essentially equal. The only noticeable difference is that ZM avg. roughly 60 more yards passing per game. The completion % though is basically the same, and Jefferson threw for more TDs and less INTs.

Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:18 am to
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1. Mett's first year starting was under Studrawa.
and yet every "no QB has ever developed under Miles" thread will say Mett was a Richt product. so which is it, was Mett always good or did he get better under Cam?
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