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re: I'll ask it. Why did Mett get no meaningful snaps last year?

Posted on 9/9/12 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/9/12 at 6:27 pm to
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Well, this thread has been officially hijacked.


Apologies. ZM should have played more last year. Fasho.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/9/12 at 6:48 pm to
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I'll ask it. Why did Mett get no meaningful snaps last year?

Honest albeit unsatisfying answer:



"Wow...that throwing motion is slow and awkward."

Posted by Victry4LSU
Member since Jun 2006
549 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 6:50 pm to
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Why did Rivers get no meaningful snaps last night in a 38 point win?
There seems to always be an argument for #2 in BCSCG. Many years, SOS or most impressive wins decides a tie breaker. Last year, most impressive lost decided the #2 slot.
I think Les Miles knows that if it comes down to an USC/LSU debate at the end of the season, common opponent may be a factor so the only logical answer to this question would be to control what you can and win the common opponent argument.

LSU set the bar at 38 for USC/Wash and I promise if USC has a comfortable 21 point lead midway in the 4th, Lane Kiffin will not call off the dogs.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
13168 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 6:55 pm to
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Honest albeit unsatisfying answer:


Posted by Victry4LSU
Member since Jun 2006
549 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 7:02 pm to
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with no efforts whatsoever to change the game plan. Saban didn't have to work hard for that NC Title.
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At least one Rantard gets it. CLM has no leg to stand on so far as that game is concerned. It was the worst game plan ever in the history of LSU and he stuck to it stubbornly when it was evident very early on that it would fail.

This....and in all honesty, that miserable game plan vs Alabama would have destroyed Okie St for the simple fact, that LSU would never have been in so many 4th and 1s and 3 and outs therefore making OKST like every other opponent not named Alabama that LSU has played that year.

Like the quote said, Saban didn't have to work hard for that NC, Saban was not forced to make any adjustments whatsoever.

Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 9/9/12 at 7:06 pm to
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Victry4LSU


YOU!
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
13168 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 7:10 pm to
OK. I'll admit it. I will never get "over" that game for many reasons, but the only one that matters is that LSU should not have had to play that bunch again especially after beating them in their own backyard. The BCS frauds would be ashamed had they any shame or dignity, but I digress.

LM for reasons known only to him, decided not to prepare for 'Bama part deaux. He, er, rolled out Mr. Jefferson expecting to win a tight defensive struggle. Why could he not get that his offense as constituted with you-know-who at QB was going nowhere. 92 total yards. What in the world could have been going through that head of his?

Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/9/12 at 7:40 pm to
So according to the koolaid drinkers on this thread, as long as LSU is winning and blowing teams out, Miles should leave Mett in every game until it's time to kneel out the clock. Then, when Mett goes pro, LSU should start over next season with Rivers never having taken a meaningful snap at LSU.

I apologize, now that I have seen it written, I can see the wisdom of this thinking.

Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 7:42 pm to
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So according to the koolaid drinkers on this thread, as long as LSU is winning and blowing teams out, Miles should leave Mett in every game until it's time to kneel out the clock. Then, when Mett goes pro, LSU should start over next season with Rivers never having taken a meaningful snap at LSU.


That is exactly what I said. You pretty much nailed it. Your reading comprehension is about as good as your incomprehensible handle.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 9/9/12 at 7:51 pm to
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likely better than anything you had to say
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 8:00 pm to
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OK. I'll admit it. I will never get "over" that game for many reasons


Really adult of you. Let me guess...... you are still crying over that girl that dumped you in the 7th grade?

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What in the world could have been going through that head of his?

13 consecutive victories with that offensive game plan?

Let me ask you a simple question. Let's say just for conversation, that you did something well. It doesn't matter what it was but you surprisingly did it well. What ever it might have been it worked. (Fantasy is so much fun, isn't it?)
Then to make the situation totally unique, let's say that you were able to do the same thing well 12 more times and it worked every time. I know that's a strtetch, but bear with me here.

So now you are presented with a very similar situation. Why in the world would you get away from something that has worked so well so often? You wouldn't would you?
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
15822 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 8:01 pm to
at least you are honest enough to self-identify as a koolaid drinker.

There are two discussions taking place:

"Mett should have been the starting QB last year or at least played against Alabama"

and

"Mett should have gotten some meaningful snaps last season to lessen the learning curve this year"

The former is irrelevant. The latter has merit, and if LSU continues to blow teams out and Rivers doesn't get any meaningful snaps this year, it will be a disturbing trend.

But of course, the counter arguement will always be "LSU is good so don't question anything".
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 8:04 pm to
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The former is irrelevant. The latter has merit, and if LSU continues to blow teams out and Rivers doesn't get any meaningful snaps this year, it will be a disturbing trend.


At what point does our first year starting quarterback not need meaningful snaps? Whatever the hell that term means.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 8:08 pm to
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Tiger Authority


Just HTF are you qualified as an "authority"?
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/9/12 at 8:10 pm to
Senority
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
15822 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 8:12 pm to
Mett does need them (and is getting them), but so does the backup (and isn't getting them). Not really that hard to grasp. Maybe some happy medium could be reached wherein Mett gets all snaps until LSU is up by 28+ in the second half.

Rivers is one play away from being the starter. If Mett has a great season he likely jumps to the NFL and Rivers is likely the 2013 starter. Why be such a fricktard about the need to get the guy some experience? Like to argue, I guess.

FYI, meaningful snaps are the ones where the QB is running the normal offense and not just running out the clock by handing off or kneeling.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 8:23 pm to
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FYI, meaningful snaps are the ones where the QB is running the normal offense and not just running out the clock by handing off or kneeling.


meaningful snaps are those in which the QB must get the play from the sideline, get the team in and out of the huddle, get the team set at the line, make sure something isn't royally screwed up with the set, call time-out if necessary, call with the proper cadence, handle the snap, handle his responsibility after the snap, etc. I know in Simpletonia all the QB has to do is throw the ball, but this is American Football.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 8:25 pm to
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Just HTF are you qualified as an "authority"?





Pretty long, intensive process through the rant in which they went to great lengths to make sure that my random handle selection years ago was valid. Obviously it was accepted so it immediately became true.

WTF gives you license to use a first name like Johnny? It better be your real name or I'm going to lose it.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 8:27 pm to
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Mett does need them (and is getting them), but so does the backup (and isn't getting them). Not really that hard to grasp. Maybe some happy medium could be reached wherein Mett gets all snaps until LSU is up by 28+ in the second half.

Rivers is one play away from being the starter. If Mett has a great season he likely jumps to the NFL and Rivers is likely the 2013 starter. Why be such a fricktard about the need to get the guy some experience? Like to argue, I guess.

FYI, meaningful snaps are the ones where the QB is running the normal offense and not just running out the clock by handing off or kneeling.



So we need to give Rivers first half snaps and take them from our first year starter during his second career start? Yeah, I am happy the rant does not provide us with our coaches.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 8:42 pm to
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The latter has merit, and if LSU continues to blow teams out and Rivers doesn't get any meaningful snaps this year, it will be a disturbing trend.


We know LSU football is on a roll when the great debate is the "meaningful snaps" a 2nd team QB should get.

BTW, 2nd or 3rd team QBs don't get "meaningful snaps" anywhere. Those get taken by starters.

This post was edited on 9/9/12 at 8:45 pm
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