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re: If we lose Saturday, then win 1 of the last 3, this season was still a raging success.

Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:33 am to
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
5421 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:33 am to
I wouldn’t call it a raging success. A&M and Arky are worse than expected. Success, absolutely. But 7-8 wins was the reasonable expectation entering the season.
Posted by jb21lsu
NWLA
Member since Mar 2018
2883 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:55 am to
Says the guy that has pic of a guy that is anti-2A but makes money off of shows featuring the 2A in use.
Posted by Geaux Guy
Member since Dec 2018
6594 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 4:38 am to
Success yes

Still, we should expect to win at least 2 of our last 3.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42805 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 6:26 am to
Expectations reset as the season goes on. A raging success would be winning 4 of these last 5 (4 regular season games plus the bowl game).

2 of those would be a letdown at this point and put us right at preseason expectations from a large part of the media who had Us at 7-5 and near the bottom of the SEC west

That would most likely have us finishing 4-4 in the SEC.
SO probably behind Ole Miss in the west, probably behind Arkansas, and possibly behind A&M. We would also be unranked at that point and get a putrid bowl game. Not a raging success by any metric.

Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29033 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 6:46 am to
A lot of you have killed me with your low standards, same for local BR media. I've predicted 9-3 since spring and so many have been okay with 7-5. I would have and still would consider that a failure. An 8-4 season would be a disappointment. Never expected anything more than 9-3 though.
Posted by CBK
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2022
669 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 6:55 am to
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I wouldn’t call it a raging success. A&M and Arky are worse than expected. Success, absolutely. But 7-8 wins was the reasonable expectation entering the season.


This! If you look, we lost to a mediocre FSU in the dome and got blown out by UT. We have beaten an overrated Ole Miss, and average to bad SEC teams Moo State, Aubarn and Flawduhh. I cannot call Ole Miss a signature win, they ARE overrated.
When the season started so many said 8-9 wins would be a good season to start the CBK era. We need a good signature win, and we have the chance to beat Bama. Arkansas is better than you think, and 5&7 will play LSU hard. There’s still plenty of opportunities left, let’s enjoy!
Posted by Jd75189
Member since Sep 2019
609 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 7:05 am to
quote:

You can’t look at it as “finishing 3-1.” You have to look at it as “finishing 10-3.”


FIFY
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12960 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 7:06 am to
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You can’t look at it as “finishing 1-3.” You have to look at it as “finishing 8-5.”

Yeah, that's a no for me, Dawg.

If LSU is rolling into the Bama game 6-2 and in contention for the West, finishing 7-5 would be a huge let down. Wasn't 7-5 thought of as a best case by many? That would put us in the middle to bottom half of the west and right where the media predicted LSU would be. That's not a "raging success".

That's basically a complete collapse and reminiscent of the Miles years where Beating Bama was everything and if they lost, that was the end of the season. Bama is beatable, but we've seen them pull a rabbit's foot out of their arse (or Aggie trip over it) enough that, if Bama wins, it's just another game and it's time to move on to the next.

There's no reason LSU can't be sitting at 8-4 or 9-3 before the bowl game.
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
2951 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 7:08 am to
I do consider the Ole Miss win to be "signature." The pollsters apparently thought so too.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
20559 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 7:54 am to
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I say we just sit back, relax, and enjoy the game Saturday. Win or lose.



I am going to scream my head off the whole dame game whether we are winning or losing Saturday night. I have my bourbon flask filled up and its ready to geaux
Posted by 314stunna
NYC
Member since Aug 2015
952 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:01 am to
9-3 or 8-4 in a rebuild, i will take it.

Arky and Texas am will be tough games that we will have to go win. They won't just happen.
Posted by metallica81788
NO
Member since Sep 2008
10062 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:27 am to
At this point - yes season is success
But goalposts move

If we don't finish 3-1 to end the season I will be disappointed
Posted by CBK
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2022
669 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:47 am to
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I do consider the Ole Miss win to be "signature." The pollsters apparently thought so too.


Good win…yes but not a “signature” win. They are overrated, and aside from LSU their schedule sucks. They will get rolled by Bama next weekend and as usual they do not beat good football teams. They are ranked where they are only because of their record. The “real” Ole Miss is the one that played dead aside from the first quarter in Tiger Stadium.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35786 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:33 am to
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You can’t look at it as “finishing 1-3.” You have to look at it as “finishing 8-5.”


I would definitely see it as losing the last 3 SEC games. Unless you think one of those losses is UAB which would leave an even worse taste in my mouth.

And if we limp into the postseason what makes you think we win the bowl game? 2-2 would be fine as long as it's not to aTm and UAB.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14762 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:26 am to
we need to win at least one more sec game, imo. having a winning sec record in year one of cbk and with this ragtag roster is a success.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34734 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:31 am to
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You can’t look at it as “finishing 1-3.” You have to look at it as “finishing 8-5.”
Lol what?

You finished 8-5
But your finishing at 1-3

8-5 is still a success but it would be wildly disappointing to lose to Arkansa or A&M

We're a better team then both of them
Posted by Katdawg87
Member since Oct 2022
135 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:32 am to
I don’t see us losing to anyone but Bama for the rest of the season. 9-3 would be an absolute legendary start for the the soon to be greatest head coach in college football.
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8654 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:06 pm to
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If we lose Saturday, then win 1 of the last 3, this season was still a raging success.


It's hard to picture losing to Bama, TAMU and Piggy in the same season we beat Auburn, UF, Ole Miss and Miss St and calling that a "raging success."

TAMU and Piggy are objectively worse than Ole Miss and Miss State, so if we lose those games I'd call it disappointing. LSU has shown its potential, so losing to lower caliber teams in the 2nd half of the season would actually be very disappointing.

At the very worst, going 8-4 after the 6-2 start should be the floor. I think 9-3 is a reasonable target for this team given what is in front of us.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58583 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:06 pm to
This season has been awesome.

Zero expectations and we are playing for a chance to play in Atlanta still.

Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62074 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:05 pm to
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Good win…yes but not a “signature” win.


I don’t know what the arbitrary definition of “signature win” is or what tangible benefit one gives you over just a plain ol’ SEC win. But I do know that no 1 win—whether CBK (the poster) has attached his arbitrary label of “signature” to it—means a whole lot unless it’s part of a stack of other wins.

I personally think the Florida game was the most important win so far and will be able to be looked back on as the turning point for this team this season. It was a game that, whatever we wind up accomplishing, will have been built on what they did that night in Gainesville.

Whether Florida wins another game this year or not won’t diminish it—it was a nationally televised SEC night game against one of our biggest rivals that still had enough hope left to turn up for what is probably the most hostile environment in the SEC (because of the way the Swamp is built). It was just a week after we got our asses handed to us at home and when the local and national media were extremely critical of Coach Kelly and Jayden Daniels, particularly Daniels, who Kelly was observed more visibly upset with and more vocally making that known on the sidelines. The talk of Nuss replacing Daniels was at its peak—people who hadn’t yet were calling for it, and a reporter even asked Kelly if he had thought about putting Nuss in due to Jayden’s “poor play” or something to effect. But Kelly was a bit defiant in defending his QB, and said something like “Well, we didn’t see it like that.” I think that was huge.

After that UT game, it looked liked Florida could easily be the 2nd in what could turn out to be a 5-game losing streak. And it didn’t take them long to score on their 1st drive to make us all go “here we go again.” But something different happened—we answered immediately to tie it up. Then Florida scored another TD to go up 14-7. And then we answered again. And again. And again until we had run off 6 straight TD drives and wound up running them out of Swamp.

But it was the responses that was so impressive. The response by Kelly and staff to their worst coaching job of the season. The response by the team after their worst game of the season. The response of Daniels after the most media and fan critical week of his season. And the response by everybody after going down so early 7-0. Not only did we never trail by more than 1 score, Florida never had the ball up 7 with even an opportunity to make it a 2-score game.

That was the turning point of the season. The Ole Miss win was great, especially after we had fallen behind by 2 scores again. But after the offense got going, building on what we had done at Florida, that outcome was just inevitable. We were too good for that not to have eventually played out like that. It will be inter sting to see if, after the bye week, we can continue to build on what we’ve done and continue to grow as a team for the last 4 games, regardless of the final score Saturday.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 1:09 pm
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