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re: If Rohan Had Been QB in 2006, We Win the NC

Posted on 8/15/08 at 1:06 am to
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 1:06 am to
I see your point. I was really thinking about a year where we had a very talented team and we came very close to winning the NC but didn't. I thought that if Rohan had played with that type of talent, he would have won the NC. I didn't list 2005 because we did not come as close. I wasn't trying to slam JR, but I see how it could come across that way.

My apologies.
Posted by tigerstros
Baton Rouge, soon to be Destin!
Member since Aug 2005
770 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 1:09 am to
The non-interference call, that was one of the worst passes I have ever seen. Doucet was ten yards behind the defender, and Russell underthrew him so badly that the defender had time to catch him and tackle him before Doucet could get back to the vicinity of the horribly underthrown ball. That would have been an easy touchdown for a Qb with any touch at all, however, it was a critical point in the game and Russell could not handle it, just like taking a sack 4 or so plays earlier with no timeouts left, and fumbling the ball at the 1 foot line along with 3 picks at Florida.
Posted by topgun1676
Clinton, Maryland
Member since May 2007
1850 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 1:12 am to
Yes, but the playcalling was pretty conservative at times. I think Jimbo was still developing Russell so he didn't give him full reigns. Valid point though.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285284 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 1:40 am to
Matt Mauck>>> Rohan.


sorry, but true
Posted by That One
Northern Virginia
Member since Jul 2004
6029 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 2:03 am to
IF....
/thread
Posted by ATR
Utopos
Member since Feb 2008
916 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 2:11 am to
Right! And had Dalton Hillard and Gary James been our backs in 2005 we proabably would have taken the Crystal then as well. Same thing in 1987 had we only had Y.A. Tittel under center. Come on. What kind of claim is this?
This post was edited on 8/15/08 at 2:12 am
Posted by Fighting Tigers
Member since Aug 2008
2167 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 2:57 am to
IMO, JR was the least impressive black QB for LSU (except for the Notre Dame game in the Sugar Bowl). To me, the most impressive black QB for LSU was either Davey or Herb Tyler... I'm pretty certain that Jordan Jefferson will also join Davey and Tyler as the most impressive black QBs for LSU.

Since he got booted, RP doesn't count, unfortunately.
This post was edited on 8/15/08 at 2:58 am
Posted by 12gauge
Member since Oct 2004
11645 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 3:49 am to
has any mentioned the fact that florida would've skullfricked lsu regardless of who was qb yet?

if not, let me be the first.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
76198 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 4:15 am to
quote:

IMO, JR was the least impressive black QB for LSU (except for the Notre Dame game in the Sugar Bowl). To me, the most impressive black QB for LSU was either Davey or Herb Tyler... I'm pretty certain that Jordan Jefferson will also join Davey and Tyler as the most impressive black QBs for LSU.


This is in every way.
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3573 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 4:32 am to
If Rohan Had Been QB in 2006, We Win the NC...


Very doubtful with Jimbo...

Also understand this Josh Reed had a lot to do with Rohan's stats.

No one could cover Reed in 2001.

Posted by Fighting Tigers
Member since Aug 2008
2167 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 4:45 am to
quote:

This is [gay head-against-the-wall smilie] in every way.


JR IS GOD. HE IS THE GREATEST QB IN LSU HISTORY!!!

Does that make you feel better?

P.S. JR was a disappointment.
This post was edited on 8/15/08 at 4:48 am
Posted by 12gauge
Member since Oct 2004
11645 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 4:47 am to
welp, you're a gigantic retard.
Posted by Fighting Tigers
Member since Aug 2008
2167 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 4:49 am to
quote:

welp, you're a gigantic retard.


At least he ain't some white-trash Gator.
Posted by 12gauge
Member since Oct 2004
11645 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 4:50 am to
whatever you say, mongo.
Posted by WampusCat56
piney woods
Member since Nov 2005
8645 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 5:27 am to
quote:

Play calling and referees. Not QB play

both not good.

But QB not good either in that game. We win that game in spite of play calling and officiating with better QB play. THose of you who keep denying this simple fact are deluding yourselves for some reason.

Only after the Auburn game did JR start playing great QB. The first part of the season he was average at best.
Posted by WampusCat56
piney woods
Member since Nov 2005
8645 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 5:34 am to
quote:

The non-interference call, that was one of the worst passes I have ever seen. Doucet was ten yards behind the defender, and Russell underthrew him so badly that the defender had time to catch him and tackle him before Doucet could get back to the vicinity of the horribly underthrown ball.

BOOM !!!

I have been saying this since one second after the play. THE PLAY SHOULD HAVE BEEN A TD without any CHANCE of interference.

JR was just not accurate the whole season up to that point. He consistently overthrew/underthrew open receivers. And over the middle he set up our receivers for crunched rib on most plays. Instead of hitting them instride for chance for YAC, he made them stop and jump high to catch the ball - with a pissed off DB closing in for a big hit.

In my view, JR was NOT GOOD in the first half of that season. After Auburn, he became a much better QB and THEN started deserving some of the accolades that came his way.

But to say that he was GREAT that SEASON is pure bullshite.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
76198 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 5:42 am to
quote:

Only after the Auburn game did JR start playing great QB. The first part of the season he was average at best.


That was the third game of the season. The two games before Auburn he was a combined 26-37 with 449 yards 5 tds and 0 ints, admittedly against two scrub teams but I don't know how that can be construed as average.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112442 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 5:44 am to
quote:

But QB not good either in that game. We win that game in spite of play calling and officiating with better QB play. THose of you who keep denying this simple fact are deluding yourselves for some reason.


The part you are missing is JR had ZERO help from the running game in our 2 losses in 2006. He didnt play his best, absolutely not, but the running game was nonexistent.

Compare that to last season, where the running game was good in just about every game.
quote:

Only after the Auburn game did JR start playing great QB. The first part of the season he was average at best.


quote:

JR was just not accurate the whole season up to that point.


So, a 70% completion % is considered not accurate now?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112442 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 5:45 am to
quote:

In my view, JR was NOT GOOD in the first half of that season. After Auburn, he became a much better QB


Auburn was the 3rd game of the season.

It's hilarious how people continue to say all these things about JR and here is a perfect example where you didnt even know what you were talking about.

And I shouldn't say hilarious, it's really sad that people do that to a guy who was so great to our university.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
76198 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 5:49 am to
quote:

It's hilarious how people continue to say all these things about JR and here is a perfect example where you didnt even know what you were talking about.

And I shouldn't say hilarious, it's really sad that people do that to a guy who was so great to our university.


But he wore that BAMA Boy chain, as a rantard that makes me mad.
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