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re: If Rohan Had Been QB in 2006, We Win the NC
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:25 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:25 am to SlowFlowPro
Ar-kansas fans were scared with JR on the field, they told me so. 
Truth is he threw to hard first,thus lot's of drop balls.What I saw were receivers not getting open all the time. I (think) his completion percentage was all time at LSU, can't remember though.
Truth is he threw to hard first,thus lot's of drop balls.What I saw were receivers not getting open all the time. I (think) his completion percentage was all time at LSU, can't remember though.
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:26 am to H-Town Tiger
did I mention my quote about 3 good receivers.
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:28 am to geauxjo
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There were times he almost blindly heaved the ball down field only to have Reed make an incredible leaping catch.
rohan led the NCAA in passes thrown from almost his knees while getting sacked in 2001. he had to
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:29 am to tubucoco
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that JR is a strongarmed QB with that doesn't read defenses well
then explain these, especially how they all relate
a. really high completion rate
b. low INT #s
c. really really high ypa
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:29 am to greensborotiger
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Ar-kansas fans were scared with JR on the field, they told me so
most honest SEC fans will tell you JR put the fear of god in them every time he was on the field
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:29 am to I-59 Tiger
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Russell lovers
I-59...what does this mean? I thoroughly enjoyed watching Tyler, and Davey and Mauck and Flynn and a host of other LSU QB's in my time. But just because people come to J Russel's defense when he is being villified and his accomplishments as a QB picked apart and, heaven help us, even placed below Herb Tyler as a college QB doesn't mean we don't really appreciate those other guys. There is definitley an anti-JR bias on here for reasons that I can't figure out. When looked at objectively and simply letting his individual stats and abilities speak for themselves and leaving out the team accomplishments...JR is one of the all-time great QB, if not the greatest to play at LSU. He just is. I would expect to have to defend that statement against fans from others teams, but not with our own fans. IMO, we should all be "JR lovers", I guess.
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:29 am to SlowFlowPro
Man all this cause I posted a video with Ro highlights I found on youtube 
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:30 am to tubucoco
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did I mention my quote about 3 good receivers.
like reed/clayton/meyers?
like clayton/dev/skyler?
like early/lafell/byrd?
LSU has not lacked in WR talent for years
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:31 am to I-59 Tiger
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I cannot believe you Russell lovers are trying blame that 2005 SEC CG loss on Flynn. Amazing.
Well,he got it started and we never recovered!
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I cannot believe you Russell lovers are trying blame that 2005 SEC CG loss on Flynn. Amazing.
Well,he got it started and we never recovered!
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:32 am to geauxjo
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I thoroughly enjoyed watching Tyler, and Davey and Mauck and Flynn
i looooooooove davey
before addai and bowe came along, he was by far my favorite LSU player ever
but ro is not close to JR
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:33 am to I-59 Tiger
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I cannot believe you Russell lovers are trying blame that 2005 SEC CG loss on Flynn.
I'm not, the team was exhausted and the D was terrible. But if people are going to balst JR for noting winning any titles, while praising Flynn for winning titles, all the facts need to be mentioned.
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:34 am to tubucoco
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JR is a strongarmed QB with that doesn't read defenses well
Well, in your opinion, who read them better? Because I watched some of the guys that are being lifted up as possibly better than JR at LSU have some really poor reads at times. Mauck nearly killed us with some of his reads and got bailed out by our defense often. Davey, Flynn? I mean who read defenses better? I think JR did pretty well based on his completion stats and obviously two very good coaching staffs had confidence in him also.
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:35 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:not as good as Bowe/Early/Doucet
reed/clayton/meyers?
like clayton/dev/skyler?
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:35 am to ATLTiger
f
You can't hint that JR doesn't walk on water without this reaction.
For those who care, JR starts his quest for the Pro Bowl this evening in Nashville vs the Titans. Kiffen has said that JR will play the first half and he is going to turn him loose.
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Man all this cause I posted a video with Ro highlights I found on youtube
You can't hint that JR doesn't walk on water without this reaction.
For those who care, JR starts his quest for the Pro Bowl this evening in Nashville vs the Titans. Kiffen has said that JR will play the first half and he is going to turn him loose.
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:37 am to geauxjo
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But just because people come to J Russel's defense when he is being villified and his accomplishments as a QB picked apart and, heaven help us, even placed below Herb Tyler as a college QB doesn't mean we don't really appreciate those other guys. There is definitley an anti-JR bias on here for reasons that I can't figure out.
LINK No, you guys can't have it both ways.Wrong answer.All of this 'Russell defense' cannot be done without ridiculing or belittling other LSU QB's. My response was to a poster making a lame comparison to the 2005 and 2007 SEC CG who even went so far to blame Flynn on the loss.
I think Russell was great. May be the best LSU QB ever. Who knows ? But you guys who defend Russell with ever fiber of your being have to get through your heads that someone who doesn't think he was the greatest or thinks another guy was better or equal ,that declaration is not tantamount to saying Russell sucks.There is middle ground,or even lesser ground. Picking another player over Russell doesn't imply Russell sucks.
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:37 am to geauxjo
I just said Flynn was a avg QB, and Mauck shouldn't evev be in discussion, I'm arguing JR's faults, frick it.
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:41 am to roygu
I love Flynn for the sacrifices he made at LSU and for helping us win the big one, but I have to say, JR reads defenses better than Flynn. People forget, Flynn threw 11 ints last season. That's more than JR ever threw in a year. The notion that Flynn is a much smarter QB than JR is a MYTH.
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:42 am to I-59 Tiger
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All of this 'Russell defense' cannot be done without ridiculing or belittling other LSU QB's
bullshite
saying JR is better than them is not ridiculing the other QBs
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My response was to a poster making a lame comparison to the 2005 and 2007 SEC CG who even went so far to blame Flynn on the loss.
well if you give team accomplishments to individual players, then you have to
it's a stupid way to measure individuals
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But you guys who defend Russell with ever fiber of your being have to get through your heads that someone who doesn't think he was the greatest or thinks another guy was better or equal ,that declaration is not tantamount to saying Russell sucks
there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW saying JR was nothing more than a strong-armed retard on the field who couldn't read defenses. now you go tell me where similar comments like that were made about ro/herb/flynn/mauck
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:44 am to I-59 Tiger
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thinks another guy was better
When that guy is Herb Tyler...yeah, I'm gonna come running. And when the stats from the other guys simply don't match up, yeah, it deserves to be corrected.
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All of this 'Russell defense' cannot be done without ridiculing or belittling other LSU QB's
Sure it can. Just the same as MVP awards and individual player awards are given out every year at team banquets to recognize players accomplishments. They don't belittle other team members. I believe I can say that JR is probably the best QB from LSU and do it in a way that doesn't belittle the other truly great ones. I appreciate what all of them have done for the p&g.
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:45 am to I-59 Tiger
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My response was to a poster making a lame comparison to the 2005 and 2007 SEC CG who even went so far to blame Flynn on the loss.
Let me clear this up. THE LOSS IN THE 2005 SEC CG WAS NOT MATT FLYNN'S FAULT.
That said, Flynn was terrible in that game. If we are going to hold it against JR for not winning a title, but praise Flynn and Davey for winning the SEC, all the facts need to be mentioned.
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