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re: If Matt Flynn Had JR's talent....
Posted on 3/4/11 at 12:21 am to Hitchcock
Posted on 3/4/11 at 12:21 am to Hitchcock
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Intereting that you forgot Doucet
How is that interesting does his presence count two more times to make up the 5 receivers you stated? It's common knowledge he was there's no reason to point that out.
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Posted on 3/4/11 at 12:29 am to saintsfan22
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How is that interesting does his presence count two more times to make up the 5 receivers you stated? It's common knowledge he was there's no reason to point that out.
You lost on the previous page.
Posted on 3/4/11 at 12:39 am to Hitchcock
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Russell had 5.
actually, both had 4 in their final yr. freshman Lafell = freshman Toliver.
but who's counting...
Posted on 3/4/11 at 1:07 am to RobbBobb
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Ppl are really still defending the biggest bust in all of football?? Really? REALLY??
Yeah JaMarcus busted big time in college.
Posted on 3/4/11 at 1:38 am to LSUIEGRAD13
Are you fricking insane - Matt Flynn had more talent than Russell ever had - he just didn't get the chance. Now how does he look in the NFL with the best back up performance of the entire season. Arm strength is very overrated - Flynn had skills - it's all about getting a chance.
You insult Flynn by making this poor comparison. I'm not a johnny come lately either - I called for Flynn to start and argued he was the better QB with countless "experts" here on this site
You insult Flynn by making this poor comparison. I'm not a johnny come lately either - I called for Flynn to start and argued he was the better QB with countless "experts" here on this site
Posted on 3/4/11 at 1:49 am to Templars
You never get old.
Posted on 3/4/11 at 7:17 am to Templars
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Are you fricking insane - Matt Flynn had more talent than Russell ever had - he just didn't get the chance. Now how does he look in the NFL with the best back up performance of the entire season. Arm strength is very overrated - Flynn had skills - it's all about getting a chance.
You insult Flynn by making this poor comparison. I'm not a johnny come lately either - I called for Flynn to start and argued he was the better QB with countless "experts" here on this site
I have nothing against Matt Flynn, but this is ridiculous. So you watched every game where a backup played? JR was a better QB. The fact that Flynn is still in the league and JR isn't speaks to his work ethic, not his talent level in college.
Posted on 3/4/11 at 7:17 am to ForeLSU
Flynn would be starting somewhere in the NFL by now if he had JR's arm and frame- he'd be Big Ben with a stronger arm.
But he doesn't, so it doesn't work out that way. Heck, if JJ had Lee's quick release (vs his own 3 second windup) we might have a BCS title this year. Again, doesn't work.
But he doesn't, so it doesn't work out that way. Heck, if JJ had Lee's quick release (vs his own 3 second windup) we might have a BCS title this year. Again, doesn't work.
Posted on 3/4/11 at 7:57 am to DBG
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the "2 nfl first rounders at WR" is a fricking horrible argument.
I agree that it is misleading to say that without acknowledging that Flynn played with a couple of greats in LaFell and Doucet... but I don't think Doucet/LaFell/Byrd can compare to Buster MF Davis/Bowe/Doucet.
That '06 trio has to be one of the best in LSU history in terms of performance at the college level.
But for the Flynn/JR debate, I have to think that we go at least 10-2 in 2007 if Russell is here... maybe 12-0 in reg season. JR > Flynn in college IMO FWIW.
Mettenberger trumps all, though
Posted on 3/4/11 at 8:00 am to Boh
Sound argument
And see, you're not bashing Flynn or diminishing what he did, you're giving deserved praise to Jamarcus.
Most people either cant do that, won't do that, or just aren't smart enough to recognize it.
And see, you're not bashing Flynn or diminishing what he did, you're giving deserved praise to Jamarcus.
Most people either cant do that, won't do that, or just aren't smart enough to recognize it.
Posted on 3/4/11 at 8:06 am to KingofthePoint
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The fact that Flynn is still in the league and JR isn't speaks to his work ethic, not his talent level in college.
But you can't do it on talent alone! JR proved that and so did Flynn. Flynn had a brain. He wasn't as talented, but put the use talent he had with great decision making skills and won a national title. JR was dumber than a bag of hammers!
Posted on 3/4/11 at 8:13 am to GroundsKeeperWillie
Flynn didn't have great decision making skills in 2007, you're just saying that because it fits in with the less athletic, more cerebral, white QB stereotype
Flynn played way to much like a gunslinger at times and would write checks that his arm couldn't cash. Jamarcus was a far superior "decision maker" in college.
Flynn played way to much like a gunslinger at times and would write checks that his arm couldn't cash. Jamarcus was a far superior "decision maker" in college.
Posted on 3/4/11 at 8:21 am to DBG
Flynn's motor never stops!
Posted on 3/4/11 at 9:02 am to LSUIEGRAD13
if flynn had JR's talent, he might've been just as lazy because he wouldn't have had to work as hard.
this is a silly question. and no one on this board would go into any of the 04, 05, or 06 seasons and started matt flynn over JR. that's just silly. and it's looking at it after the fact.
now to compare them, JR is probably better overall, but when those teams lost, JR had bad games. the games Matt lost, he put up 48 points in both 3OT games. can we really blame him and the offense for that?
this is a silly question. and no one on this board would go into any of the 04, 05, or 06 seasons and started matt flynn over JR. that's just silly. and it's looking at it after the fact.
now to compare them, JR is probably better overall, but when those teams lost, JR had bad games. the games Matt lost, he put up 48 points in both 3OT games. can we really blame him and the offense for that?
Posted on 3/4/11 at 9:04 am to Templars
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Are you fricking insane - Matt Flynn had more talent than Russell ever had - he just didn't get the chance. Now how does he look in the NFL with the best back up performance of the entire season. Arm strength is very overrated - Flynn had skills - it's all about getting a chance.
What? Flynn had one start this year and his team lost. He didn't even see the field in the Super Bowl
Posted on 3/4/11 at 9:08 am to AlaTiger
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but I don't see where he was that much more talented than Matt Flynn.
there are like 5-7 QBs ever who are in the discussion with JR in terms of talent
Posted on 3/4/11 at 9:12 am to Stevo
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other than arm strength, in what way(S) is JR more talented the MF?
accuracy
their mobility is about the same
Posted on 3/4/11 at 9:13 am to Hitchcock
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Flynn did NOT have 2 1st Round WR's that Russell did.
Speaking of busts
Posted on 3/4/11 at 9:23 am to Templars
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Are you fricking insane - Matt Flynn had more talent than Russell ever had
i think we need to define, "talent"
Posted on 3/4/11 at 9:24 am to GroundsKeeperWillie
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JR was dumber than a bag of hammers!
how did he complete so many passes accurately at a high ypa?
how did he avoid the turnovers that flynn had?
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