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re: "If LSU fires Les Miles, he will have a job at a major program the next day"
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:42 pm to FLObserver
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:42 pm to FLObserver
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. He had two great season at LSU after that he never made it back to a bcs bowl or a playoff game with Tons of NFL talent
So now we're arent counting top 5 finishes and sedan west titles as great seasons?
The entitlement on this board is glorious.
From 1960- 2004 lsu had 10 top 10 finishes.
From 2005-2015 miles had 5 top 10 finishes.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:49 pm to Madking
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You brought up the 80s as part of your false assessment of Okie states history
At no point did i say Oklahoma state didnt have talent in the 80's. Just another example of you changing someone's post.
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And btw we didn't reach any new heights during Miles tenure
Holy shite.
So 2 title game appearances in 5 years isnt a new level?
He wasnt the first coach to beat Florida,auburn, and bama in the same seasons?
He didnt set an overall win % and ooc win% at lsu?
Only someone with an agenda would say we didnt reach new heights under miles.
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there not one thing he did that hadn't been done before, constant exaggerating and flat out lying to force your agenda
I havent lied once. I'm sorry facts about miles tenure hurts your heart.
Youre the only one caught lying about top 10 opponents.
Maybe if you educated yourself in reference to football, you wouldn't get so mad at facts.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:49 pm to LSU GrandDad
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you are not a space cowboy, you are a space cadet. you give les miles ZERO credit for his accomplishments at LSU and you ignore many facts. LSU doesn't automatically recruit itself any more than Notre Dame or Tejas does.
NO ONE was duped about a record that lasted as long as miles did. YOU have been duped by your obvious bias and close mindedness and are spreading falsehoods to kill any legacy the man has. you should be ashamed of yourself.
You’re delusional, I don’t give Miles Zero credit, I said overall, he hired pretty good assistant coaches. However, unlike you, I don’t give Miles false credit for accomplishments that are not actually his.
For instance, when Miles arrived on campus, there was excellent facilities and a national championship team already recruited and stocked up for Les Miles courtesy of Nick Saban. I mean he didn’t recruit those players, they had been recruited already by Nick Saban. Not to mention that most of LSU’s outstanding facilities had already been built at LSU shortly before Miles’ arrival.
Nick Saban had none of those advantages when he arrived on campus, yet he not only was the catalyst to get those new facilities built at LSU, but he also built LSU into a winning national championship program during his short tenure on campus. Had Miles been hired before Nick Saban when the program and the facilities had been so weak, there would be no way LSU’s program would be what it is today and Miles would have been long ago.
Of course, Miles won from the get go, because the team was already loaded with national championship talent courtesy of Nick Saban. However, Miles always lost one, two, or three games every season he shouldn’t have lost.
Nonetheless, because of his outstanding won-loss record, most LSU fans and recruits assumed he was an outstanding coach, even though he couldn’t even handle a press conference.
In fact, we should have won a national championship in 2006, but we didn’t because Miles cost us a game. Then after the season ended, LSU had a record 5 Tigers taken in the first round of the NFL draft. So, add that to the false perception that Miles was a great coach, at an outstanding flagship university with an excellent football program and tradition, and LSU practically recruited itself. Everybody wanted to play for LSU.
Then in 2007, Miles finally got very lucky and won a national championship although we had to back our way into the national championship game thanks to miles losing a couple of games on the way we should have never lost, Miles finally won his first national championship, and the LSU fans who now hated Nick Saban with a passion, were ecstatic. Indeed, Miles was now anointed a God by the fans, then, of course, the recruits who also had that same false impression of Miles wanted to play for this God, at this outstanding flagship university with an excellent football program and tradition, and LSU continued to practically recruit itself. Everybody wanted to play for LSU.
However, over time the chinks in the armor started to slowly show through. Although LSU still was attracting top echelon players and still having pretty good overall records every year, at the same time it kept losing a few games it wasn’t supposed to lose. Not to mention, that it struggled in most games it won. The reason for the losses and the struggles were Les Miles’s piss poor offenses, piss poor game management, and piss poor clock management. Although our defenses were the reason for most wins, Miles piss poor offenses were the reasons year in and year out for our losses and our struggles, despite the overwhelming level of the offensive of talent LSU was able to recruit. Indeed, over the years Miles squandered a ton of very talented offensive players, and over the years that started to slowly take its toll on LSU and LSU’s recruiting.
Then finally last year after being given a last-minute reprieve, LSU canned his arse, and I have been celebrating ever since. Nonetheless, it’s not that I didn’t think Les Miles was a great person because I do. Indeed, I’d love to have a few beers with him. But as a coach, that’s a different story, I don’t want him anywhere near our football team.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:50 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I go to Oklahoma city twice a year and everyone I talk to says lsu fans were ignorant for wanting miles gone
Its just like your bullshite claim.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:55 pm to Madking
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There was 65 year old Butch Davis who got a job this year
Again, not a p5 program.
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79 year old was also hired as a head coach this offseason
He had already been a coach there.
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And for the record just off the top if my head Lou Holtz, Steve Spurrier and Barry Alvarez twice were all hired at power 5 schools past the age of 60 so again this is a false narrative.
So just like I said....
None of these happened in the last decade. Please name one from the last decade.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:58 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Alvarez in 2014 that's the last decade in case you didn't know. Once again you're wrong.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:58 pm to Space Cowboy
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For instance, when Miles arrived on campus, there was excellent facilities and a national championship team already recruited and stocked up for Les Miles courtesy of Nick Saban. I mean he didn’t recruit those players, they had been recruited already by Nick Saban. Not to mention that most of LSU’s outstanding facilities had already been built at LSU shortly before Miles’ arrival.
Did you use this same logic for Saban's titles?
Whether you like it not Miles is the only coach of the two to make a national title game and win a sec titles with his players only.
If miles wasn't a good coach how did he turn Oklahoma state into a respectable program?
Saban stepped into a far better situation and won about 5 games more than Miles in his 1st 3 years.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:59 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Except he didn't Mich state was on probation. Wrong again.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:00 pm to Madking
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Alvarez in 2014 that's the last decade in case you didn't know.
You clearly dont follow Wisconsin football.
He was the interim and he was the AD before that. If you consider that a hired then he hired himself.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:01 pm to Madking
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Except he didn't Mich state was in probation. Wrong again.
I was talking about lsu.
Try to keep up.
Also, so now sanctions make programs a bad program?
You used sanctions on OSU to say Oklahoma state wasnt a shite program.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
It's not a claim jerkoff I went to Oklahoma every summer for awhile delivering crawfish for my uncles catering business. This is what you do any story you don't like you claim it's a lie. You're a sick sociopath who can't deal with reality.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:02 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Lmfao Saban inherited a better situation than Miles at LSU? Lmfao lmfao lmfao!!!! It's no wonder everyone thinks you're a joke.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:04 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Lmfao so now head coaching hires have to meet your Miles friendly parameters too? Lmfao you need help dude.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:06 pm to Madking
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It's not a claim jerkoff I went to Oklahoma every summer for awhile delivering crawfish for my uncles catering business. This is what you do any story you don't like you claim it's a lie.
Mine isnt a claim either. The people that I talked to in Wisconsin love Miles.
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You're a sick sociopath who can't deal with reality.
Like this reality.....
Miles tenure at lsu
#1 win % in lsu history
#1 ooc win % in lsu history
7th best win % in sec history
#1 ooc win % in sec history
As many top 5 finishes as Saban, Mac , and Dietzel combined.
Most top 25 finishes in lsu history.
Most top 20 finishes in lsu history.
Most top 15 finishes in lsu history.
Most top 10 finishes in lsu history.
Most top 5 finishes in lsu history.
No program beat more ranked teams than lsu.
No program was ranked in the top 25 more weeks that lsu.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:07 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Dude I watched les miles coach pumper. If it looks like a duck, seims like a duck, talks like a duck - it's a duck. The guy looked dumb or lucky in all games he coached, the guy sounded dumb and clueless whenever spoken to anyone in public. It wasn't a coy deceptive trick of a genius pretending to be the ultimate retard. Sorry.
And whoever takes over for Saban at Bama is also going to win 80% of his games- doesn't mean they are even a good coach
And whoever takes over for Saban at Bama is also going to win 80% of his games- doesn't mean they are even a good coach
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:08 pm to Madking
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Lmfao so now head coaching hires have to meet your Miles friendly parameters too? Lmfao you need help dude.
He hired himself AS INTERIM HC. The fact that you take that as Alvarez being OFFERED a job at a major program proves your agenda.
He wasnt hired to be the HC. He was hired as interim.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:08 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Miles is the only lsu coach to reach a title game with 100% of his players.
What...Nick Saban and Paul Dietzel don't count?
Yeah...but he lost the game that counted nevertheless, because of his stinking offense again. Had Miles had the sense to step back and let someone else handle the offense just for that one game, he and LSU would have won a national championship that season. But like usual, we always lost a few games each season we shouldn't have lost because of Les Miles. That season was no different.
Moreover, those players came to LSU because of Miles' false perception as being a great coach, when his offenses year in and year out always sucked to high heaven, and to the extent that they were successful, it was despite Miles. It was LSU's outstanding defenses over the years that made LSU a winner, as LSU thanks to Miles' ineptitude always lost games it shouldn't have lost and always struggled in the games it should have won easily season after season until it finally became self-evident and undeniable.
Meanwhile, you are obviously duped by Miles record, which is not really Miles's record, but the programs' record instead. Indeed, you don't have a clue because you have been rendered blind by all the brown stuff piled up all over your face. Indeed, I can smell you from way over here and it stinks to high heaven. Indeed, I can't see how you breathe with all that stuff piled up on your face.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:09 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Was he the head coach in 2014? Yes he was do those games count on his record? Yes they do. Try learning something about football and get your head out of Miles arse for a minute.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:11 pm to tibebecolston
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Dude I watched les miles coach pumper. If it looks like a duck, seims like a duck, talks like a duck - it's a duck. The guy looked dumb or lucky in all games he coached, the guy sounded dumb and clueless whenever spoken to anyone in public. It wasn't a coy deceptive trick of a genius pretending to be the ultimate retard. Sorry.
Yeah an economics degree from Michigan just screams dumb.
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And whoever takes over for Saban at Bama is also going to win 80% of his games- doesn't mean they are even a good coach
Please explain how a bad coach can turn around a program with 1 winning season from 1987-2001?
It's impossible.
Whether you like it or not Miles is one of the most successful coaches in sec history.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:11 pm to Space Cowboy
He's a joke dude and he lies 99% of the time. When you see him post the word "fact" yo better double check cause chances are it isn't true.
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