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If Alleva is gone, I will say this....

Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:03 pm
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6186 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:03 pm
Dude really had LSU's best interest at heart and gave it his all. If you look at the overall athletic program we are in pretty good shape. His boss killed him plain and simple. Without King he would have fired Miles earlier and sealed the deal with Jimbo. This entire Wade saga, which will do him in, was on F King. But there always has to be a fall guy. Fortunately for us, I think F King days are numbered as well.

This may have been Karma from the whole Duke fvck up. Anyways, I would feel confident that Woodward will be our next AD but with King still at the helm......doubtful.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 11:06 pm
Posted by Peytonknows
NOLA
Member since Nov 2006
16465 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:04 pm to
Nah he sucked. The end.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:04 pm to
What the frick is this idiocy?
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71662 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:06 pm to
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Without King he would have fired Miles earlier and sealed the deal with Jimbo. This entire Wade saga, which will do him in, was on F King. But there always has to be a fall guy.

Sounds like he's weak. And F King didn't make him seek out a national writer for that dumbass statement after the Yale game.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 11:07 pm
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:06 pm to
He’s a cuck. We need an AD who is not a cuck.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9721 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:06 pm to
That shits still on Alleva for having poor communication with his employees and bosses.
Posted by Booyow
Member since Mar 2010
3999 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:09 pm to
Better get some rest Joe. That office ain’t gonna pack itself tomorrow, baw
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6186 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:10 pm to
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Sounds like he's weak. And F King didn't make him seek out a national writer for that dumbass statement after the Yale game.

definitely weaknesses of his. He was horrible with the media(not high up the lists of importance as an AD in his defense)
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32644 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:14 pm to
Let’s play a game, what’s the biggest failure by Joe Alleva

Was it when Joe wouldn’t let Les hire Dave Aranda so he hired Kevin Steele and our 2015 defense was garabage?

Was it his failed hiring of Jimbo Fisher?

Was it his failed hire of Johnny Jones?

Was it him failing to hire Tom Herman?

What about the time he expelled 4 innocent young men over a murders fake rape claim with absolutely no proof. I believe the state attorney called if a sham and a judgement that was rushed due to public pressure over white privilege.

What about when he hired Trent Johnson? He passed on Virginia’s coach in this hire by the way.

How about the PR disaster with Hurricane Matthew, he fricked that up royally. But it’s not like we got a slapped together 11am homegame and traded that for a night game vs Florida huh? I wonder what local business owners thought about that.

How about that time that he was so stubborn about a fricking video coordinator that we almost lost CPM to Texas? A fricking video coordinator.

How about the ads around campus? We look broke and trashy.

What about tailgating, has that gotten better in the past decade? Surely the game day experience is top notch, can’t wait to see the tents lined up Nicholson in the fall. I mean it’s not like they would take tailgating away, contract it out to a commercial company and try to make money off of tailgating huh?

Remember when he hired Patrick Murphy? Oh wait...

he got lucky as hell with Beth.

What about the time he took a shining star, our General and threw him under the bus to appease guys like Dick Vitale and Clay Travis?
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11911 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:18 pm to
Alleva is not a leader. The way he handled Miles’ firing then retention, only to fire him the next season, Wade’s suspension based off a yahoo.com article and the Orgeron hiring after Herman was offered by Texas were all knee jerk, reactionary decisions. Competent leadership is sorely needed. Let’s just hope we get it.
Posted by Baseball Tiger 17
Member since Jun 2017
727 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:19 pm to
He absolutely did not. There is nothing good this man did for LSU.
Posted by tigertex1992
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1863 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:22 pm to
I’m sure somebody else was pulling Alleva’s strings on several occasions but what did he, himself really do for LSU? Did he take any LSU sport to another level? No. Everything about LSU sports was already on its course before Alleva already came into the picture...except for basketball, but by all accounts Alleva’s contribution was Trent and Johnson, not Wade. Each and every time LSU came into some sort of crisis, Alleva’s response was a national embarrassment: the way he handled the firing of Miles, the way he handled the hiring of Orgeron, the Florida/hurricane fiasco, hell the way he handled contract negotiations with Chavis, and now Wade. Complete amateur performance every time. I don’t know or care where his heart was. He was completely incompetent.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15905 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:26 pm to
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He was horrible with the media(not high up the lists of importance as an AD in his defense)

Media relations may not be top priority in the day-to-day operations of an athletic department, but it can be damn important for an AD, particularly when he has a history of screwing it up.

People don't generally hear from an AD until something truly newsworthy is happening with their program, so if he consistently bungles the PR side of the job when the spotlight is on him, he should be held accountable.
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6186 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:28 pm to
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Was it when Joe wouldn’t let Les hire Dave Aranda so he hired Kevin Steele and our 2015 defense was garabage?


Saw the writing on the wall before the fans did. Clearly wanted Les out and was making moves for this to happen.

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Was it his failed hiring of Jimbo Fisher?

F King baw
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Was it his failed hire of Johnny Jones?

completely pressured hire by the hiring ups and the godfather Dale brown.

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Was it him failing to hire Tom Herman?

Not a single AD in the country was going to get Tom Herman here. A caveman knows this.

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What about the time he expelled 4 innocent young men over a murders fake rape claim with absolutely no proof. I believe the state attorney called if a sham and a judgement that was rushed due to public pressure over white privilege.

no doubt, big mistake. This is his greatest failure.

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What about when he hired Trent Johnson? He passed on Virginia’s coach in this hire by the way.


he missed on this hire for sure. But not every single hire an AD makes over his time span is a homerun. Also, most everyone loved this hire when it was made.

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How about the PR disaster with Hurricane Matthew, he fricked that up royally. But it’s not like we got a slapped together 11am homegame and traded that for a night game vs Florida huh? I wonder what local business owners thought about that.


risky moved that could have gone either way, that I liked. You win the game in Baton Rouge and you look like a genius. Since we lost, looked really bad.

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How about that time that he was so stubborn about a fricking video coordinator that we almost lost CPM to Texas? A fricking video coordinator.

CPM is still here, so this point is irrelevant.

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How about the ads around campus? We look broke and trashy.

thats just your opinion man.

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What about tailgating, has that gotten better in the past decade? Surely the game day experience is top notch, can’t wait to see the tents lined up Nicholson in the fall. I mean it’s not like they would take tailgating away, contract it out to a commercial company and try to make money off of tailgating huh?


I agree. another mistake here. Not been a fan of commercializing LSU.

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Remember when he hired Patrick Murphy? Oh wait...


He had him hired. ITs not his fault Patrick is a dirty hoe bag. Not sure why youre complaining about this because his secondary hire of Beth Torina was an excellent hire.
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he got lucky as hell with Beth.

BS

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What about the time he took a shining star, our General and threw him under the bus to appease guys like Dick Vitale and Clay Travis?

One problem with Alleva is he is way too emotional. It was a mistake and showed up here.
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6186 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:30 pm to
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Media relations may not be top priority in the day-to-day operations of an athletic department, but it can be damn important for an AD, particularly when he has a history of screwing it up.

People don't generally hear from an AD until something truly newsworthy is happening with their program, so if he consistently bungles the PR side of the job when the spotlight is on him, he should be held accountable.

the most important job of an AD is to hire coaches to win games and raise money for athletics. Which kind of go hand and hand. if theses things are happening, people could care less on how he handles the media.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6455 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:37 pm to
He sucked at his job for 7 years before King was hired.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 11:38 pm
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15905 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:50 pm to
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the most important job of an AD is to hire coaches to win games and raise money for athletics. Which kind of go hand and hand. if theses things are happening, people could care less on how he handles the media

Yeah, no one around here cares how "I am the search" was handled, or that every dime is being squeezed out of the gameday experience, or that Wade got thrown under the bus after a tournament win.

Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24431 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:50 pm to
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Solo Cam


You left out the complete shite show that is LSU concessions.
Posted by Tigah
Geaux Tigers
Member since Dec 2003
1877 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:56 pm to
Lsutiger2, Are you Joe Alleva? If so, Bye... take F King with you.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71662 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:57 pm to
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Saw the writing on the wall before the fans did. Clearly wanted Les out and was making moves for this to happen.


And he had Les flapping in the wind for a week then Joe bullshitted like everything was fine in postgame.
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Was it his failed hiring of Jimbo Fisher?

F King baw

That's him being weak. Impress on your non-knowing shite boss how important this is.
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Was it his failed hire of Johnny Jones?

completely pressured hire by the hiring ups and the godfather Dale brown.


Super duper weak. Love Dale, but the program wasn't gonna crumble if he and Clarence Ceasar are mad about Johnny not getting the job.
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How about that time that he was so stubborn about a fricking video coordinator that we almost lost CPM to Texas? A fricking video coordinator.

CPM is still here, so this point is irrelevant.


It speaks to a poor job at reading his coaches' wants/needs. Les leveraged the Arky opening and worse Torina had to leverage the Auburn job. They shouldn't have to flirt to get shite done.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 11:58 pm
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