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re: I wanna believe in Jay Joihnson Tell me why I should?

Posted on 3/24/22 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by TheGeauxt18
Member since Aug 2018
333 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 3:27 pm to
The base stealing I agree with, we need to attempt more steals/ hit and runs. The pitch calling is a catch 22 because we have a lot of guys who can't locate breakers, which makes calling pitches a bit more challenging for a coach. Substitutions and leaving pitchers in too long are to test players. To see who can be clutch, or to see who can get themselves out of a jam. I see many on here calling for JJ to emphasize the mental part of the game. Well that's it, mental toughness. Guys need to dig deep in big situations. That's how you separate men from boys. Come April/ May he will have his answers and so will we. 21 games isn't that long when taking over a program.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
10263 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 3:39 pm to
We have caught some bad breaks, just in the general sense as far as injuries but also in game as far as bloopers and what seems like EVERY walk and error costing us and on and on. It's just been the perfect storm of misery - bad play, bad coaching, bad luck, bad streams, bad haircuts, bad Thompsons (Doug and Jordan), bad jewelry, bad everything.

But, I think it's all fixable. Like, fixable overnight.
Posted by StickD
Houston
Member since Apr 2010
11571 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 3:55 pm to
Dam DRock, you are right.

The baseball gods don't favor this manager and it is showing, so brightly that everyone can see it.

I'm glad you put it into words.
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
9153 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 3:58 pm to
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I think it's all fixable. Like, fixable overnight.


I’m not sure Doug is fixable overnight.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71267 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:01 pm to
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One of those all Americans is a guy who followed Jay from Arizona so stop trying to spin it like Mainieri left a loaded roster


Doughty, Crews, and Morgan are all projected 1st round draft picks. Morgan and Crews were both AAs. Gavin Dugas led the SEC in RBIs last year and led the SEC in HRs in conference play (3rd overall). Dugas is batting at the bottom of the lineup or not playing. Gio has shown he can hit against SEC pitching and it took a month before he started playing. What do you know, he has one of the highest OBP on the team. Thompson has talent and has regressed since his freshman season last year. Milazzo is an elite defensive catcher. That's more than enough pieces to work with in the lineup not to perform so poorly against decent teams. But he's too stubborn to realize moving Berry to DH, Doughty to 3rd, and Merrifield to 2nd helps shore up one of the biggest issues we've had. His excuse about LH hitters doesn't even make sense. We started 5 on Saturday and 4 on Sunday. Moving Berry to DH and putting anyone else in LF would still leave the same number of LH bats as any replacement: Gio, Pearson, Stevenson, Drost, Jobert all are LH hitters. Yet, somehow, he said that'd leave us with only 2. Wat?
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 4:02 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75886 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:01 pm to
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I’m not sure Doug is fixable



FIFY
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71267 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:04 pm to
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Come April/ May he will have his answers and so will we.

April is a week away
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15779 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:05 pm to
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Tell me why I should?


Because he’s a proven coach who has had success everywhere he’s been and he’s just 21 games into his LSU coaching career?

Oh and he inherited a very flawed roster, so I’m not sure what you guys were expecting? Omaha year 1?
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 4:06 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71267 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:14 pm to
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so I’m not sure what you guys were expecting?

playing like a team that's at least well-coached and has a plan. A&M is trash and it was very clear they are a well-coached team in comparison.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78246 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:16 pm to
I hate Yo break it to you hut pitching is 1 of our 2 big problems
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78246 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:18 pm to
Say whatever you want about 3rd base, if we can’t fix SS we’re fricked. It’s the bleeding ulcer of this team. It takes from bad to awful.
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 4:19 pm
Posted by StickD
Houston
Member since Apr 2010
11571 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:27 pm to
There is not such thing as NO other options at SS.

JT needs to sit and watch someone else make errors. Why not, that's what he is doing while other players are watching.

At least for a game.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15779 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:29 pm to
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playing like a team that's at least well-coached and has a plan. A&M is trash and it was very clear they are a well-coached team in comparison.


But which is it? Are they well coached and their 10-6 record coming into SEC play was just a fluke? Or are they trash and did they just play over their head and appear well coached for one weekend?

I keep beating this drum, this is a highly flawed roster and it was even more flawed when Johnson got here. I can’t understand for the life of me why y’all think habits that took years to form would be broken in a matter of months?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71267 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:40 pm to
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I can’t understand for the life of me why y’all think habits that took years to form would be broken in a matter of months?

I'm talking about moves he makes. That is completely within his control. A&M has a bad bullpen, generally. But they have competitive at bats and are sharp in the field. They play like they have a plan even if they're not always able to execute that plan. Jay coaches like a guy guessing hoping something works. And it's been that way all year.

And this isn't just about wins and losses. It's how we're losing games many times.

Comparing us to A&M. They are one of the best fielding teams in the entire country. Scholssnagle basically recruited an entirely new team from the portal. But those guys are sharp as hell in the field. They don't have a greta bullpen and only decent starting pitching but they're 2nd in the SEC in fewest walks allowed. They pitch to contact and keep the ball low and induce ground balls (196 ground outs to 128 fly outs), which is a big reason why they;ve only allowed 8 HRs all season. They seemingly know who they are and Schlossnagle coaches based on what they have, which isn't a lot.

Johnson, on the other hand, doesn't appear to know his team very well and is still trying to figure that out. He has shown he cares very little about defense, at all, which has been a major reason why we're losing games. It's as if he failed to scout his own team after he took the job. I'm not saying he didn't but he coaches like it.

And to say habits can't change? Really? We went from an overly aggressive lineup who swung at pitches early and often to a team that stares at pitches all night trying to extend at bats. But that doesn't work when you consistently find yourself in 2 strike pitchers counts and are just trying to stay alive.
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 4:43 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78246 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:46 pm to
We’re hitting well.

We’re drawing walls

We’re scoring runs

The approach seems to be working.

We can’t field or pitch
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71267 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:53 pm to
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We’re hitting well.

We’re drawing walls

We’re scoring runs

In SEC play, against La Tech 2x, and against the teams we played at Minute Maid (the decent teams on our schedule thus far) we are not doing any of those things well.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75886 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:55 pm to
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In SEC play, against La Tech 2x, and against the teams we played at Minute Maid (the decent teams on our schedule thus far) we are not doing any of those things well.



And we often look like complete arse the first time through the order.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78246 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:55 pm to
That’s not true though.

We scored 6 runs in both games vs La Tech.
We scored 5 and 6 runs against OU and Baylor
We scored 4 7 and 7 runs against A&M

Were averaging 6 runs a game in SEC play.

Numbers don’t lie.

We’re scoring runs. You can’t complain about the bats.

We’ve literally scored less than 4 runs 1 time.

The bats are good we just set the bar so damn high with our shitty fielding and pitching
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 4:57 pm
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19919 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 5:01 pm to
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And that's good. We'll see what happens. I just wish he would have realized this before the second weekend of SEC play.

To me it’s hard to make a move based on one bad outing, which is all he really had until the A&M game
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17048 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 5:16 pm to
You don’t have to see a bad outing to know he’s not an SEC starter, we’ve known that before the bad outing. If I told you I had a guy who can only throw fastballs and he can’t throw them for strikes consistently, would you say he needs to be starting SEC games? Of course not
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