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re: I think Woodward pulls the plug on Torina
Posted on 5/22/23 at 1:47 pm to OchoDedos
Posted on 5/22/23 at 1:47 pm to OchoDedos
You can’t be a wife, mom to 3 small kids, the head coach, pitching coach, run the offense and think that you’ll not be deficient in one or more of those areas. It’s impossible to operate all those at the highest level. She needs to relinquish control of the offense and just focus on pitching. I doubt she will though.
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 1:52 pm to LSUJockStrap
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We lost to a better team this weekend.
I really don’t think that’s true. Apart from the games against LSU, ULL was 1-9 against Top 25 teams this year. Even against top teams LSU didn’t surrender 16 runs in a two game stretch all year. LSU’s young pitchers just cracked under the pressure yesterday. (Kilponen was inconsistent as she has been much of the year.) Hopefully it’s a learning experience that makes them stronger next year.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 1:56 pm to MikeTheTiger71
Kilponen??
She went through something?
That firmer steady veteran just seemed to unravel with age, begs alot if questions
Do not understand…..and Torina came to BR with pitching-creds ?????
She went through something?
That firmer steady veteran just seemed to unravel with age, begs alot if questions
Do not understand…..and Torina came to BR with pitching-creds ?????
Posted on 5/22/23 at 2:00 pm to tigerpierre
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Kilponen?? She went through something? That firmer steady veteran just seemed to unravel with age, begs alot if questions Do not understand…..and Torina came to BR with pitching-creds ?????
The career trajectory of Kilponen, Sunseri and Wickersham are the most concerning aspects of Torina’s tenure. I expect more from her and Berzon next year. If not, it’s probably time to make a move.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 7:58 pm to Walker wild tiger
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The only determination will be football, baseball, and basketball
He has proven ZERO in that regard. So like I said tGoat is going to be Broadhead or Dean is you count championships. Dean is still the AD who hired Saban REGARDLESS WHAT tRant thinks.
If O gets credit for Burrow (remember Miles / Aranda hired Bill B and O kept him out of a requirement from tBinder) , Dean gets credit for Saban. Just how it works.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:03 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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The career trajectory of Kilponen, Sunseri and Wickersham are the most concerning aspects of Torina’s tenure.
Kilponen's career trajectory was a 3.55 ERA her freshman year to 1st team all-conference her last two years.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:09 pm to 00 Tech Grad
Number 10 national seed. She ain't going anywhere
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:09 pm to saintsfan22
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Kilponen's career trajectory was a 3.55 ERA her freshman year to 1st team all-conference her last two years.
She can coach pitchers. She has gotten lazy in recruiting and Dobson, while he was the big name when hired, is past his prime. Defensively, they need better. Get rid of the whale that coaches first as well.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:40 pm to 00 Tech Grad
His phone has to be ringing off the hook.
If I was a top 10 softball coach and knew how SW thinks, I’d be selling myself in every way possible.
If I was a top 10 softball coach and knew how SW thinks, I’d be selling myself in every way possible.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:48 pm to saintsfan22
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Kilponen's career trajectory was a 3.55 ERA her freshman year to 1st team all-conference her last two years.
Her career trajectory was positive until she took a step back this season. I agree that prior to this year, I would have viewed her as a developmental success story. This year put a damper on that to some extent.
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:53 pm to MikeTheTiger71
I’m pretty sure Kilponen is done, she is a 5th year senior. Kilponen had a 2.25 era to finish her career. Would say it’s very respectable. Far better now than she was a few years ago. Is she Hoover or Walljasper good? Nah but she has been very solid at lsu. Not the most consistent at times but a good pitcher.
LSUs entire pitching crumbled in the regional finals though. Though much of it can be attributed to Torina making poor bullpen decisions and not pulling someone when they needed help
Would not put her in the category of Sunseri, Wickersham or Gorsuch who all fell off a cliff. I would say last season was Kilponens best year overall. This one was not quite as good but still very good year. It’s not like she dropped off a cliff or anything
LSUs entire pitching crumbled in the regional finals though. Though much of it can be attributed to Torina making poor bullpen decisions and not pulling someone when they needed help
Would not put her in the category of Sunseri, Wickersham or Gorsuch who all fell off a cliff. I would say last season was Kilponens best year overall. This one was not quite as good but still very good year. It’s not like she dropped off a cliff or anything
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:57 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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Her career trajectory was positive until she took a step back this season. I agree that prior to this year, I would have viewed her as a developmental success story. This year put a damper on that to some extent.
Again, she was 1st team All-SEC this year.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:00 pm to saintsfan22
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Again, she was 1st team All-SEC this year.
Last year she was 9-3 in conference games and 2nd in the conference in ERA. This year she was 6-6 and 7th in the conference in ERA. She was still good, but not as good as last year.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:03 pm to 00 Tech Grad
Hanagrif broke it down really well on his Hannycast today. I totally agree with him. He breaks down the hitting numbers and pitching numbers of her teams since her World Series runs. The biggest take I got from it is recruiting and pitching have not been good enough since Hoover and Waljasper and that is where she needs to improve. I think hitting can improve as well especially runs scored.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:10 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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Last year she was 9-3 in conference games and 2nd in the conference in ERA. This year she was 6-6 and 7th in the conference in ERA. She was still good, but not as good as last year.
It was 2.45 this year compared to 2.67 last year. Literally better.
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:20 pm to Tigerbait357
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I’m pretty sure Kilponen is done, she is a 5th year senior. Kilponen had a 2.25 era to finish her career. Would say it’s very respectable. Far better now than she was a few years ago. Is she Hoover or Walljasper good? Nah but she has been very solid at lsu. Not the most consistent at times but a good pitcher.
Yes, I think you are right. Coming into the year, I thought this was it for her, but for some reason as the season went on it seemed like she wasn’t being highlighted as a Senior. The COVID year makes things so muddled. This is her 5th year playing, so she’s done.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:23 pm to saintsfan22
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It was 2.45 this year compared to 2.67 last year. Literally better.
The league ERA this year was 3.51. Last year it was 4.29. She was better relative to the league average last year as evidenced by her being 2nd last year with a slightly higher ERA compared to 7th this year.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:27 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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She was better relative to the league average last year as evidenced by her being 2nd last year with a slightly higher ERA compared to 7th this year.
That's not her fault. All she can control is her own ERA which she lowered. Also, two of the people with lower ERAs this season in conference play were Johnson and Chaffin, who threw like 30 innings in conference combined.
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:30 pm to LSUNV
And our best hitter is transferring.
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:41 pm to saintsfan22
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That's not her fault. All she can control is her own ERA which she lowered. Also, two of the people with lower ERAs this season in conference play were Johnson and Chaffin, who threw like 30 innings in conference combined.
I wasn’t including Johnson and Chaffin. I only included pitchers with 50+ IP. It’s not her “fault” the ERAs are lower this year, but it does reflect the fact that SEC offenses were weaker this year than last year. Her better ERA was a product of a weaker offensive conference. That’s why her standing within conference (and to a lesser extent her W-L record) is a better reflection of the quality of her season. Rogers, Penta, and Fouts all had worse ERAs than Kilponen last year but better this season while Delce stayed ahead of her. There are 9 pitchers with at least 50 IP under 3.00 this year and only 3 last year. There were 6 with an ERA over 4.00 last year and only 1 this year.
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 9:53 pm
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