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re: I think, with the recent SEC hires, we need O more than ever. *update*
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:58 am to geauxcoco
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:58 am to geauxcoco
Well you're the one that made it a talking point.
Really 2014 was the only real non-10 win season during that stretch you could completely attribute to Les. he won 10 or more in 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2015 if you include the canceled rent-a-win. That wasn't his fault so I don't know why you'd count it against him.
But I know it fits your narrative better if you just say 2012 was the last time we won 10 games. Add a lie and fail to acknowledge the canceled rent-a-win and you're there. Rant logic at its finest.
Really 2014 was the only real non-10 win season during that stretch you could completely attribute to Les. he won 10 or more in 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2015 if you include the canceled rent-a-win. That wasn't his fault so I don't know why you'd count it against him.
But I know it fits your narrative better if you just say 2012 was the last time we won 10 games. Add a lie and fail to acknowledge the canceled rent-a-win and you're there. Rant logic at its finest.
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 12:01 pm
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:00 pm to geauxcoco
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I’m very confident....this is a very good football team right now whether you want to admit it or not
Are you confident our football program is better now than it was before we replaced our head coach? If so why? ... Because of the win against auburn?
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:05 pm to Goldrush25
... And I still don't understand why 10 wins is some sort of magic number. Didn't get it when Miles was coach. Don't get it now. Apparently you can get 10 wins a session and still be completely irrelevant. Hell, the fact that one game getting cancelled against a scrub rent-a-win makes the difference just goes to show how pointless it is.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:06 pm to geauxcoco
quote:. Very good? I don’t know we beat Auburn when they fell asleep and beat up on some really bad teams. I don’t know how good they really are.
this is a very good football team right now whether you want to admit it or not.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:06 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I really feel this season was a push. Very disappointing early season, nice stretch of wins with a big game vs Auburn, hard fought but still loss to Bama and a good, not great bowl.
If O can have a successful 2018 I will be extremely impressed. There will be no "SEC down year talk" with the supposed big league hires in the SEC. LSU faces 2/4 playoff teams in Georgia and Bama, @Auburn and Top 10 Miami.
With a new QB, replacing the 2 starting RBs and 2 top WRs 2018 will be a formidable challenge. The margin for error is going to be razor thin.
I'm still skeptical that O can get LSU to the next level, but if he does well next season he deserves a lot of credit.
If O can have a successful 2018 I will be extremely impressed. There will be no "SEC down year talk" with the supposed big league hires in the SEC. LSU faces 2/4 playoff teams in Georgia and Bama, @Auburn and Top 10 Miami.
With a new QB, replacing the 2 starting RBs and 2 top WRs 2018 will be a formidable challenge. The margin for error is going to be razor thin.
I'm still skeptical that O can get LSU to the next level, but if he does well next season he deserves a lot of credit.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:10 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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how can it get worse than a historic msu loss and losing to a mid major with zero top 95 classes since 2013? the lsu coach IS SUPPOSED TO not let team quit.
I think Jimbo and pre-season #3 FSU can answer that question.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:10 pm to tigertex1992
The program isn’t any worse off imo and I need more time to make that judgment, as do all of you. He hasn’t even finished a full season as HC for Christ’s sake. O is 16-5 since he took over....Even with QB’s at his disposal that weren’t considered very good. If he lands a top QB, I think he can have us rolling. Watch us get to 10 this year, and 11 the next. I’m excited about where things are headed. 
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:16 pm to tigertex1992
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... And I still don't understand why 10 wins is some sort of magic number. Didn't get it when Miles was coach. Don't get it now. Apparently you can get 10 wins a session and still be completely irrelevant. Hell, the fact that one game getting cancelled against a scrub rent-a-win makes the difference just goes to show how pointless it is.
Well that other guy was the one that wanted to make it a big deal. Just showing him that it was a benchmark attained with regularity here, even right up until Miles was let go.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:18 pm to geauxcoco
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O is 16-5 since he took ove
he is 9-3.
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I need more time to make that judgment, as do all of yo
then why are you claiming O is the coach we need?
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:21 pm to BayouCowboy
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I think Jimbo and pre-season #3 FSU can answer that question.
except its been proven that this season is the outlier for jimbo.
Ed Orgeron winning, for now, is the outlier. this is the 1st time he has ever won more than 2 conf games in a season.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:21 pm to geauxcoco
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we need O more than ever
good heavens *gasp* why?
Coach O is the default position for everything wrong with the current state of LSU football. Give me Herman, or Fisher, or Mullen, even Applewhite or Chip Kelly any day over Coach O. Sheesh.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:30 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I said I “think” we need him....we will find out soon enough brother. 
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:34 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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except its been proven that this season is the outlier for jimbo. Ed Orgeron winning, for now, is the outlier. this is the 1st time he has ever won more than 2 conf games in a season.
I agree, Jimbo has an elite resume. I've said as much on another thread. That doesn't discount the fact that this year, when the season could have gone in the dumpster LSU and O got back on track. Jimbo phoned it in.
How long before Jimbo gets tired of his shiny new toy in College Station? IDK.
We don't know how Jimbo will do in the SEC as a HC. Bielema was a 3 time Big Ten champ with 7 bowls in 7 seasons at Wisconsisn. How'd that Arky job work out for him?
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:37 pm to geauxcoco
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recruiting will be HUGE! Give me O any damn day in this situation
Too bad Os first full class is a stinking mediocrity.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:52 pm to DmitriKaramazov
Last time I checked this class is far from over.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 1:02 pm to DmitriKaramazov
quote:You do realize the class isn't done yet don't you? We just moved up to 12 after a commit from the #1 JUCO OT and that was right after Tom Herman tried to pull him away.
Too bad Os first full class is a stinking mediocrity
quote:LINK
Texas still has guys like Anthony Cook and Joseph Ossai at the top of the wish list, but the most important target on the board is Badara Traore.
Sorry Tom. Big boy's wearing purple and gold.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 1:11 pm to geauxcoco
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Oh you forgot the SEC West champs...don’t forget them baw
it was 20 points. Did you even watch the game? Not a big football guy, I take it.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 1:15 pm to BayouCowboy
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The margin for error is going to be razor thin.
Apparently it won’t because O supporters will be ready to make any excuse to defend him.
If O goes 9-3 next year that actually would be a success.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 1:30 pm to BayouCowboy
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I think Jimbo and pre-season #3 FSU can answer that question.
Weird measuring stick.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 1:34 pm to Dave England
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Apparently it won’t because O supporters will be ready to make any excuse to defend him. If O goes 9-3 next year that actually would be a success.
That's the thing. I'm not giving O an out if the season does not go well, but an honest assessment is that 2018 will be extremely tough given schedule and offensive player turnover. I think the D will actually be better right out the gate so hopefully they can give the offense some time to get settled.
9-3 may be realistic, but I will be disappointed if we don't reach at least 10 regular season wins. No pressure O. Make it happen.
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