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re: I think Scott firing WW to save the football program is a bunch of BS.

Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:25 pm to
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
15924 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:25 pm to
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My guess they were leveraging the football program (whether they had anything or not) to see if they could get Scott to cave.


This is more than an educated guess, and he did exactly that.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
21008 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:27 pm to
Scotty was down on his knees quicker than a whore on plank road
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7587 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:37 pm to
So Wade was basically set up when he signed the amended contract … it was just a matter of waiting for the NOA to be issued by the NCAA. I agree that was pretty shitty … Wade was painted into a corner and had to have known his days were numbered.
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:41 pm to
If he was set up, he needs to fire his agent, considering that’s what they’re there for. He wasn’t set up, he knew what he was signing, he was too arrogant to believe anything would come to light. He messed with the bull and got the horns.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59394 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:52 pm to
Set up might be a bit strong but there was a trap door placed under him. If we never see an NOA does he get fired? The sketchy part is the NOA contains allegations we already knew about. So was the NCAA pressuring Woody? Did Woody want to cut cost, something that’s overlooked but huge once you dig into it. When Wade was fired my reaction was ok let’s go hire a good coach. What people are mad about is the McMahon hire, the contract and what it represents in terms of investment to sustain what was being built and from a pure basketball standpoint when there were better candidates out there better suited to do this job under these circumstances.
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 5:54 pm
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7587 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 6:14 pm to
The anger should be directed towards the gestapo bastards (NCAA) and the blue bloods they protect. Wade was playing their game and they didn’t like it, so he had to be punished. No doubt there was pressure on Woodward to do something about it or risk sanctions to the football team (thanks Odell). Is LSU a strong enough brand to be able to thumb their nose at the NCAA? I don’t think so and I don’t think you take that risk.

The McMahon hire hasn’t panned out and the contract length makes things that much worse.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
21523 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:00 pm to
The way I see it, he cheated pretty aggressively, and his success, while welcome, was not that impressive.

He was just a huge improvement from the previous LSU coaches...

Let's move on Tigers....
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:10 pm to
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Let's move on Tigers....

And the fangirls believe he’ll be back.
Posted by PappaSwolio
tGeneral’s Army
Member since Sep 2022
901 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:14 pm to
Not impressive

He only made 4 straight tournaments had covid not cancelled the season. Hasn’t been done since 1993
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:19 pm to
What was the tourney record?
Posted by PappaSwolio
tGeneral’s Army
Member since Sep 2022
901 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:21 pm to
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What was the tourney record?


Are you ignorant to the fact that due to our democratic, soy infested, athletic department, he didn’t even get to coach in two of them?
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:22 pm to
And the record?
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:33 pm to
You didn’t answer the question
Posted by eltigre2
The Woodlands, Tx
Member since Feb 2019
643 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:11 pm to
That Wade was fired to “save” football is false. Wade was fired because the egotistical jackass couldn’t even cheat well. A lot of people at LSU wanted his scalp after they found out some of the careless things he had done.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
21008 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:28 pm to
Yep we can set aside the firing of wade which was pathetic. Hiring McLoser was even worse than the firing.

Also our gutted roster was from Scotty botching the firing so bad the team found out via Twitter. When you do shite like that, it shows you have no interest in investing in the program.
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
10853 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:32 pm to
I just got off the phone with Trump. He said he approves of Woodward’s actions. I’m sure that will change your opinion.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59394 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:35 pm to
It’s run like a HS program
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
18012 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 12:36 am to
It was personal. He wanted Wade gone and was willing to sacrifice every player on that roster to get rid of him.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
37722 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 12:48 am to
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none of them made payments using their wives’ bank accounts.


This had zero to do with his time at LSU
This post was edited on 3/14/23 at 12:51 am
Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
1503 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 1:10 am to
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none of them made payments using their wives’ bank accounts.

This had zero to do with his time at LSU


You may want to read the allegation again, if you truthfully think that this is a correct statement.

The text messages between ex-fiance and Wade occurred in late July into early August of 2017 (a period in which Wade was the coach at LSU) and the kicker is: that he was recruiting and trying to secure the commitment of the player during the same period of time. Here is the entirety of the Allegation (emphasis added to the final sentence of the Allegation that delineates Wade trying to secure the commitment of the player coinciding with the time frame of the text messages).

NOTICE OF ALLEGATIONS
Case No. 00909
March 7, 2022
Page No. 4
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5. [NCAA Division I Manual Bylaws 10.01.1, 10.1, 13.2.1, 13.2.1, 13.2.1.1-(e) (2016-17)]
It is alleged that, between at least April and November 2017, Will Wade (Wade), head men’s basketball coach, violated the principles of ethical conduct and provided impermissible cash payments to the former fiancée of a student-athlete in order to buy her silence regarding prior and current impermissible inducements to student-athletes or prospective student-athletes. Specifically, Wade agreed to send money to _____, the former fiancée of former student- athlete _____, to keep quiet about Wade’s payments to student-athletes. The communications between ________ and Wade exist as text messages on Wade’s cell phone. Specifically, on July 25, 2017, _______ sent a text to Wade, “I know you also gave money to some of your new recruits. . .” On July 26, 2017, _______ sent Wade another text, “. . .
my trainer I use to work with has talked to a few ppl in the basketball world & have offered me money to talk. Pls contact me by the end of the day or I will have to take them up on the offer.” Wade’s reply to these text messages was, “Call me.” On July 27, 2017, _____ sent another text, “I need 5 more to put a down payment on a car. Put it in the same account.” On July 28, 2017, _____ continued, “Send 9 to this account (my mon’s [sic] ... you’ve done your part now I have to do mine and make sure this doesn’t get out.” On
July 31, 2017, _______ sent another text, “Wade it’s _____. Did you get my message?” Wade replied the same day, “Yes I did. I thought we were done.” replied, “I told you
when I went back to the dealership he told me I had to put more money down because of my credit. We will be done w everything after this...” Wade replied the following day on
August 1, 2017,“I’m sorry you are having money issues. You said we were done after the last transfer I sent, so in my mind we are done.” The timing of this exchange between ______ and Wade coincides with the inducements offered by Wade to secure _______’s commitment.


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