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re: I think Hanigriff and Rush nailed it pretty well yesterday..
Posted on 9/27/09 at 9:54 am to MileHigh
Posted on 9/27/09 at 9:54 am to MileHigh
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I would like to see shep in the backfield with Jefferson, not just as the wildcat. He probably can't block too good though, so maybe shep and scott back there.
Option read, Or a toss pitch with shep throwing it. Or straight passing play with shep being a short dump off.
That would be nice. Or motion him out of the backfield.
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Posted on 9/27/09 at 9:56 am to Hoodatt
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Why?
Anytime Shepard is in the game, is there any guess what is going to happen?
Because it's effective. I agree in theory...and said as much about Florida using Tebow the samw way his freshman year. No WAY they could keep running that same shite over and over when defenses knew he was going to run it right at them.
Right now defenses KNOW Shep is going to tuck it and scoot, and he's still averaging 7 yards a pop. Run it until teams stop it. That DOEs NOT mean run it every play...but you damn sure would run others plays multiple times if every time you ran them tyou gained 7 yards.
Think back to the MSU game years ago with Dommanick Davis at home. there was one particular series where LSU decided that we were going to run it down their throats and every play we ran DD right between the tackles. The guy was responsible for damn near every yard gaining 6 and 7 yards every play. We ran it until they stopped it...and they never did.
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We need diversity of play calling. I'm giving the coaches the benefit of the doubt until next week. We, as fans, should know what we have at that point.
Oh, I agree with diversity...but we're not so much seeing diversity on mind as we're seeing zero identity. It's not like we're seeing one type of offense run with a diverse set of plays. It's like we're seeing multiple OC's all randomly calling plays from various offensive styles. and if we were doing it well or crisply I'd say it was a breakthrough is offensive philosophy. But we're not...
Posted on 9/27/09 at 9:56 am to fbb
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That would be nice. Or motion him out of the backfield.
Yeah, but if he is in the backfield, people will automatically think he is getting the ball. Which will open up some other plays.
I would like to see him in motion from WR into the backfield, maybe like he is running an end around. Then pitch it to KW going the other way.
Posted on 9/27/09 at 9:56 am to GeauxTigerTM
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but it's fairly hard to explin why Shepard, who is averaging nearly 7 yeards a touch, did not see the ball more than 4 times yesterday.
See KW 2007-2008.
Posted on 9/27/09 at 9:56 am to LSUGradATL
No indentity? Charles Scott up the middle for no gain. I see that happen all the time. Plays that work in the game, and you stop doin it, see that also. Players out of position on defense, every game. Stupid mistakes like returning a interception for a TD, and get a penalty for excessive whatever. Catching the punt on the 5 yard line. I have seen this the last 5 years, and will continue. We have plenty of identity, it just ain't a good one. 
Posted on 9/27/09 at 9:57 am to GeauxTigerTM
The middle of our offensive line is terrible. The tackles are not much better. The formula to beat LSU is obvious. You stack the box and leave the middle of the field open. Even ULL figured that out. Occasionally, like the 2nd touchdown pass to LeFell, Crowton seems to understand this. But, other times, we just run Scott into the stack.
We keep winning and maybe there is method in this madness, but I don't get it yet. Why isn't Shepard playing more? The better he does the more he seems to piss off the coaches. I wonder if he is beginning to regret his choice of college and if he will be so quick to recruit for us in the future? We have no identidy.
We keep winning and maybe there is method in this madness, but I don't get it yet. Why isn't Shepard playing more? The better he does the more he seems to piss off the coaches. I wonder if he is beginning to regret his choice of college and if he will be so quick to recruit for us in the future? We have no identidy.
Posted on 9/27/09 at 9:58 am to St Augustine
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I really think the "check with me" before every play tends to help kill any and all flow that the offense would otherwise have.
Yep...I hate this. It was also partly responsible for the number of delay penalties we get.
Posted on 9/27/09 at 10:00 am to ELVIS U
We are saving the middle of the field until we start SEC play. We want our opponents to think we only have out patterns in our playbook. 
Posted on 9/27/09 at 10:00 am to GeauxTigerTM
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I really think the "check with me" before every play tends to help kill any and all flow that the offense would otherwise have.
It would appear this is a "have to" situation vs a "want to" situation. Otherwise, JJ would have the confidence of the coaches to call the correct play.
Posted on 9/27/09 at 10:02 am to Hoodatt
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It would appear this is a "have to" situation vs a "want to" situation. Otherwise, JJ would have the confidence of the coaches to call the correct play.
Nah...tons of teams do this, including Florida. It's some stupid fad in offensive circles...it'll pass eventually.
Posted on 9/27/09 at 10:04 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Nah...tons of teams do this, including Florida. It's some stupid fad in offensive circles...it'll pass eventually.
Good point.
Posted on 9/27/09 at 10:04 am to MileHigh
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I would like to see shep in the backfield with Jefferson
we were gonna try that yesterday but there was some confusion and we called TO. they were in the gun.
Posted on 9/27/09 at 10:06 am to Hoodatt
I cannot believe that an OC that makes $35k per game can't see that running a play action seam route or skinny post against an 8 man box should be at least attempted.
Why can't we just give JJ two plays and let him walk up to the LOS and count the box. the two plays are CS up the middle or skinny post to Lafell with an out to Dickson as a backup. Let JJ walk up, count the men in the box, then audbile. HS teams do this. Why can't LSU?
Why can't we just give JJ two plays and let him walk up to the LOS and count the box. the two plays are CS up the middle or skinny post to Lafell with an out to Dickson as a backup. Let JJ walk up, count the men in the box, then audbile. HS teams do this. Why can't LSU?
Posted on 9/27/09 at 10:06 am to GeauxTigerTM
I think Hanigriff is a freaking blooming idiot!!! Just my opinion. I would rather watch paint dry than listen to that clown!
Posted on 9/27/09 at 10:08 am to TreyE663
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I think Hanigriff is a freaking blooming idiot!!! Just my opinion. I would rather watch paint dry than listen to that clown!
So do you disagree with anything I've said he said...or do you just dislike him personally?
Posted on 9/27/09 at 10:09 am to GeauxTigerTM
yup. was 02 and at the time Mauck was still learning the passing game. We finally just said to hell with it after the first half and starting shoving Davis and Toefield down their throats.
Posted on 9/27/09 at 10:10 am to L S Usetheforce
You say too many Chefs in the kitchen? I fear we have no Chef in the kitchen.
Posted on 9/27/09 at 10:11 am to GeauxTigerTM
Gus Malzahn has been doing the no huddle and look back to the coaches for the play since he was at Shiloh High School. Once it becomes second nature for teams and coaches to do this, it is very effective. Saban will continue to mix up the calls so we better be able to get the call immediately to JJ. ONe hang up seems to be that JJ then has to communicate the play to the team or he is making another check read without enough time left on clock. We just have to get better at this. If we go to huddle when we play Saban we will have to rely on JJ to get us out of bad plays we are doomed. Not saying anything bad about JJ , just that we need coaching input .
Posted on 9/27/09 at 10:12 am to Hoodatt
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Anytime Shepard is in the game, is there any guess what is going to happen?
Yeah, he gains like 8 yards every touch. RS was playing at a different speed when he was out there similar to PP on Def.
Posted on 9/27/09 at 10:12 am to LSS
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You say too many Chefs in the kitchen? I fear we have no Chef in the kitchen.
Their resume's say otherwise. there's no way Gary Crowton could have been successful with his scheme at other places and seemingly have such difficuty here. The numbers don't lie...his teams put up GREAT numbers runnig his system.
The question is...is he running it here? If he's running it the way he wants to and it isn;t working...why not? If he's not, then why not?
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