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re: I remember Skip talking about the cost of bowl games a few years back...

Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:20 pm to
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:20 pm to
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efrad
This guy gets it.

If it's that dire when you step on the toes of a separate entity to dictate their business, why is the bowl game that equals red not on the table?
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:22 pm to
I don't give a shite about the budget crisis.
I'm excited about seeing my team another game and I'm not sure why some of you are wrist slitting mad about it. Makes no sense to me.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:23 pm to
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If it's that dire when you step on the toes of a separate entity to dictate their business, why is the bowl game that equals red not on the table?


I would imagine that a $20+ million dollar gamble that you are obviously crying about is a lot different than some losses from a bowl game which actually pays dividends in Texas recruiting exposure.

Surely you can see this.
This post was edited on 12/6/15 at 8:24 pm
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:26 pm to
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I'm excited about seeing my team another game and I'm not sure why some of you are wrist slitting mad about it.


It's hard to get excited about losing money to play Texas Tech in the Texas Bowl when just a week ago we were excited about losing money to win a National Title under Jimbeaux.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:27 pm to
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win a National Title under Jimbeaux.

Because hiring jimbo fisher means guarantees at national titles? Ok

Fanbase is delusional.
This post was edited on 12/6/15 at 8:28 pm
Posted by Old Money
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:28 pm to
Skipping bowls is dumb. LSU wont lose money with the overall bowl payout the sec teams will get this year.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:28 pm to
Who's mad?

My contention is simple. Decisions were made regarding LSU athletics based on LSU academic budget crisis.

Why is the bowl game not included in this truth?
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:28 pm to
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Because hiring jimbo fisher means guarantees at national titles? Ok

Fanbase is delusional.


Certainly gives us a better shot than it does under Les, Cam, Steele, and BDP.
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:29 pm to
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Skipping bowls is dumb. LSU wont lose money with the overall bowl payout the sec teams will get this year.



We still get that money if we don't participate in a bowl, don't we?
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:30 pm to
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Why is the bowl game not included in this truth?


Because the bowl game is not a $20+ million dollar gamble.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:30 pm to
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I would imagine that a $20+ million dollar gamble that you are obviously crying about is a lot different than some losses from a bowl game which actually pays dividends in Texas recruiting exposure.
You're missing the point.

It wasn't LSU academics money, budget, funds, black, red, nothing. But they made the decision.

So why NOT step in now and say, hey you're spending money we don't control and will never see?
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:31 pm to
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Certainly gives us a better shot than it does under Les, Cam, Steele, and BDP.


How do you figure? Both head coaches have won a title and one played for 2.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:32 pm to
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Skipping bowls is dumb. LSU wont lose money with the overall bowl payout the sec teams will get this year.
Well, that's because we're in the SEC and TV contracts.

Going to actually play in the bowl will likely lose money. Maybe F.King.A can mandate a 50-man squad to help with costs.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:32 pm to
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So why NOT step in now and say, hey you're spending money we don't control and will never see?


Has nothing to do with not just wanting to actually pull the trigger on firing the coach? You don't think that played any part?
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:32 pm to
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Because the bowl game is not a $20+ million dollar gamble.



You're right--it's a guaranteed loss, not a gamble, if what the OP says is true.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:34 pm to
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You're right--it's a guaranteed loss, not a gamble, if what the OP says is true.


It's no where close to a 20 million dollar loss and there are tangible benefits outside the bowl related to practice time and recruiting.

I feel like I'm discussing this with people that have zero perspective of college football. Surely you are smarter than this and just trying to argue a retarded point.
Posted by trombonetiger
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:35 pm to
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That they cost more money than they earn in return. It's reasons we haven't sent full Tiger Band to some bowls.


When was the last time this happened?
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:38 pm to
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Bowl game will lose money.


Are we all just going with this asinine assumption as fact?

Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:38 pm to
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Because the bowl game is not a $20+ million dollar gamble.
We've been getting along recently, but this is dense.

LSU academics =/= making decisions for LSU AD/TAF.

But since they have, why stop now?

Or are you saying that LSU academic crisis should be able to step in on a case by case basis to control an entity that actually is in the black. Just because.

Seems silly to me. LSU academics is clustered, very red, can't control it's budget, needs to lobby for funds so they stomp on private funded black entity to interfere with their business. Nutrition center, coaching decisions, bowl appearance should be within their scope too.
Posted by lsufan251875
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:38 pm to
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That they cost more money than they earn in return. It's reasons we haven't sent full Tiger Band to some bowls.

Considering the monetary state of LSU should we even play in a bowl game if it's a net loss?

LSU has a money issue that dictated decisions. It would be hypocritical to go to a bowl game and lose money for the AD now.


There are so many things wrong here.

Let's start. What Skip was referring to was the expenses to bring a team/band/cheerleaders to a bowl game is greater than the payout. LSU only gets 1/15 of the Texas Bowl payout. But they also get 1/15 of each of the other bowl games' payouts.

To my knowledge, the full Tiger Band has been to every bowl game. Most bowl games require it.

Melt Day 8.



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