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re: I love the new bats in college baseball but come on

Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:12 am to
Posted by tigertalkster
Member since Dec 2009
644 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:12 am to
I have no problem with the bats honestly and homeruns didn't cost lsu a game and really could care less still think lsu had a great season. I like the fact that 2 out hits are so much more important now than they were even in 2009 I like bunting being important. Just more than 2 hrs there have been some balls tattooed and have just been fly outs something will change but hope not much
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24642 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:13 am to
I think they should all use the same crap , wood bats and major league balls
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27878 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:19 am to
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A lot of what LSU batters were swinging at was out of the zone.

And a lot of them weren't, but that doesn't matter anyway. The point is in this park pitchers can work the top of the zone and there are no consequences for mistakes.

As opposed to any other normal place where the intention is to keep the ball down and avoid leaving it up.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:46 am to
quote:

And this hurt the game how?


Was a player safety deal. Probably bullshite reasoning, but the thought is that that extra 5 mph could really do some damage if it were to hit a player coming off one of those hot bats.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31015 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:49 am to
I'm pretty much with you but something needs to be done at TD Ameritrade.

I saw that NC state guy hit that ball and I thought that thing was gone.

The two hit by Ibarra should've gone in the stands the other night.

Either use the tighter stitched MLB baseballs or, just at TD Ameritrade, use the old bats.

I've seen several hits that were crushed and would've gone out of every other collegiate venue. Something needs to change. If nothing else, just at TD Ameritrade.

It looks like a beautiful park but I'd rather the old Rosenblatt Stadium.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:55 am to
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or, just at TD Ameritrade, use the old bats


nah. you can't just switch the bats at the big show.

besides, those bats get better with age, they were starting out like the bats now, but they would "warm up" throughout the season
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31015 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:58 am to
quote:

nah. you can't just switch the bats at the big show.



Yeah, you're right. After I thought about it, it would be dumb to change the bats just for the big show at the end.


Changing the balls would be fairly simple though.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:09 am to
The deep flyouts were aggravating, but man, this same thing happened at the box against Stony Brook. Couldn't piece together hits, when we made contact, right fricking at someone. Just had the same frustrating feel to it.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31015 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:14 am to
I'm with you on that. I can't tell you the number of times I yelled out, "Come on!!"

It was either that or the runners left stranded. But I'm not trying to dump on the team. (not saying you are doing that either)


They had a great season and they're a great bunch of kids. I wish those leaving the best.

Posted by LSU Tiger 216
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
4026 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:26 am to
I am all for gorilla ball again, or wood bats.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31015 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:29 am to
One thing I've been wondering, not thinking there's a conspiracy theory or anything like that, but it seems like almost any bat used by any other team has that old "ping" to it and the ones we use have more of a "crack" sound.

Am I the only one that noticed this?
Posted by RoaringTiger33
Member since Jun 2011
567 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:42 am to
Thee is a misconception that homeruns were the problem with the old bats, which is not true - Texas leaguer's off the fist were the issue.

NCAA only has the top 35 teams for any given stat pre-2001, so using that ( ~13% of the D1 teams ) and comparing to 2013 and the top 4 MLB teams, you can see the numbers easily:

1997 ( height of HR for LSU ):
Top 35 Team BA: 0.365 to 0.330
Top 35 Team R/G: 10.71 to 8.5
Top 35 Team 2B/G: 3.08 to 2.31
Top 35 Team 3B/G: 0.64 to 0.40
Top 35 Team HR/G; 2.69 to 1.36

2013:
Top 35 Team BA: 0.334 to 0.298
Top 35 Team R/G: 8.3 to 6.5
Top 35 Team 2B/G: 2.53 to 1.97
Top 35 Team 3B/G: 0.64 to 0.34
Top 35 Team HR/G; 1.20 to 0.70

MLB top 4:
Team BA: 0.281 to 0.272
Team R/G: 5.11 to 4.82
Team 2B/G: 2.18 to 2.01
Team 3B/G: 0.43 to 0.25
Team HR/G; 1.31 to 1.24


First thing to note is that the talent spread in the MLB is a LOT more equal than in college - case in point, MLB all team average HR/G is 1 while 2013 NCAA is 0.421.

Triples doubles are almost a wash all around, but scoring, and batting average stand out in 1997 vs MLB. You might say HRs do too, but note that at #35, you are already at 1.36 vs 1.24 for MLB; considering the talent spread in college ball, this seems a lot more in line than only 5 teams averaging 1+ HR/G out of 296, which is what we have in 2013.

College baseball needs a bat with the sweet spot like 1997 and a barrel toward the fist with even less pop than today to simulate the broken bat hits of MLB.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 1:45 am
Posted by SofaKingTrill
Member since Mar 2008
6830 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 4:13 am to
LSU didn't lose their games due to the bats. They had a poor approach to the plate and never adjusted. Rhymes Bregman ibarra and jacoby had a total of 1 hit all together in both games. It was just terrible batting all around.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 5:32 am to
quote:

Posted by SofaKingTrill LSU didn't lose their games due to the bats. They had a poor approach to the plate and never adjusted. Rhymes Bregman ibarra and jacoby had a total of 1 hit all together in both games. It was just terrible batting all around.
This. We can blame the bats all day long, but at the end of the day there's a real easy solution. Hire a hitting coach who can teach our players how to hit with these new bats. Doesn't have to be a super hero, just a specialist. You could really see the difference between LSU's style and some of the others when it comes to hitting.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
13107 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 5:57 am to
I'd like to see the next season of baseball with the MLB ball.
(officials said probably no change til 2015 )

I don't want to see us live and die off of the longball.
I want to see baseball that is mostly balanced, just barely offensively heavy.
Posted by KT70
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
1272 posts
Posted on 6/19/13 at 6:34 am to
quote:

There's a nice medium there somewhere between the old bats and the new bats


Yes, they had it in 2008 and 2009 but took it away!
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