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re: I just don't get it....Why do all of our guys leave?
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:20 pm to SaintInBham
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:20 pm to SaintInBham
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So what your data shows is that O was not an upgrade from Miles.
True statement, but it does not mean a huge upgrade from Miles was desperately needed.
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:29 pm to atltiger6487
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:30 pm to TNTigerman
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:16 pm to basiletiger
Support your numbers. 99% really?
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:19 pm to TG
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Unfortunately, LSU has been recruiting players with the line of "Come to LSU, become a starter and we'll prepare you for the NFL".
Well its either that or "Come to LSU, play for the shrimp boat captain, make the Music City Bowl."
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:25 pm to TNTigerman
You stay for championships. They have no reason to stay.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 3:14 pm to atltiger6487
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You really wanted Miles to not go after 4 and 5* recruits because they might leave after 3 years? That's stratosphericly idiotic.
Nosir, never said I didn't want or expect him not to go after the best recruits, just saying that he used the idea of getting them in the League quicker as a recruiting tool. In order to win championships, you've got to have a couple of key players hang around for their senior year. Unfortunately, we haven't had that in a few years.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 3:16 pm to geauxtigers456
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Playing for Yaw Yaw vs playing for Dabo. Playoff vs Shitty bowl.
Dumbass
Posted on 1/16/18 at 3:22 pm to Gray Tiger
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So how do you explain early outs from teams coached by Miles, Saban, Harbaugh, Meyers, Fisher, etc.
Well, this year, Damien Harris came back and was likely an early rounder.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:09 am to Catman88
hey catman88. I didn't know you were a math major. Let's say a large percentage. Fair enough? Or would you prefer to give me numbers that a large percentage of these guys don't come from poor upbringings. Get out of here with that nonsense.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:12 am to tonydtiger
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This is definitely the way Les whored the program out to recruits.
You are not too far off from the truth
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:45 pm to TNTigerman
The answer is simple, LSU is not a team that competes for national championships no reason to stay. Most good players that come here come for only one reason, just to get drafted. LSU lacks tradition, like the bama and ohio state programs.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:52 pm to speckhead
speckhead have you fallen off the roof again?????
When you say LSU "lacks tradition" WTF do you actually mean by that????? Traditions like bama and ohio state and other programs..???? That has to be the most idiotic response I've seen today.
When you say LSU "lacks tradition" WTF do you actually mean by that????? Traditions like bama and ohio state and other programs..???? That has to be the most idiotic response I've seen today.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:55 pm to TNTigerman
We aren't a championship caliber program anymore, no one is going to come back to win 9 games and a Citrus Bowl bid.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 2:23 pm to Chimlim
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We aren't a championship caliber program anymore, no one is going to come back to win 9 games and a Citrus Bowl bid.
We'll be lucky to sniff the citrus bowl next year.
Im sure many of the players realize that O is destroying the program and why come back.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:12 pm to SaintLSU
Poor kids who are projected to go high in NFL draft are going to leave regardless of how good a team is. It’s simple economics, get used to it. Poor and high projection equals 3 years and done.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:20 pm to geauxtigers456
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Playing for Yaw Yaw vs playing for Dabo. Playoff vs Shitty bowl.
When you don't know the answer and you have an anti O agenda this Is what you say.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:23 pm to Brazos
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Having a legitimate shot of playing for a national championship helps a lot.
lots of juniors left under Miles tenure. I still believe they never thought he could get them back to the promised land and decided to bolt....can't blame them.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 3:53 pm to TNTigerman
Just throwing this out for consideration, but wouldn't knowing that a steady number of our players leave early AND get drafted in the NFL be a reason for current players to consider leaving early?
I don't like the fact that a seemingly high no. of our players "leave early", either, but the conclusion drawn by many in our fan base is: it has to be that they are fleeing a sinking ship; and, it's a sinking ship because of our pitiful coaches.
Turn it around and look at it the other way: our coaches so well prepare players for the NFL that they can confidently leave after their junior year based on LSU's reputation for creating good players.
For sure, those that hate Miles, Orgeron, as well as any assistant or position coach will refuse to accept this as a possibility. For sure, those same people will summarily categorize me as a "Sunshine pumper".
I'm not a "Sunshine pumper". I just don't believe that one's everyday life should be adversely affected by losses in pro, college, or high school ball games. Maybe war, death, cancer - that kind of stuff- but not ball games.
A lot of posters here seem to be on the verge of suicide. A lot cannot drop it. They have to be back on this site every day to carp about it, again. A lot will start reading this comment - get mad at me about it - and immediately post a rebuttal, without ever finish reading the comment. So what. I'm content. They are not and it's because of stupid sports that they aren't.
I don't like the fact that a seemingly high no. of our players "leave early", either, but the conclusion drawn by many in our fan base is: it has to be that they are fleeing a sinking ship; and, it's a sinking ship because of our pitiful coaches.
Turn it around and look at it the other way: our coaches so well prepare players for the NFL that they can confidently leave after their junior year based on LSU's reputation for creating good players.
For sure, those that hate Miles, Orgeron, as well as any assistant or position coach will refuse to accept this as a possibility. For sure, those same people will summarily categorize me as a "Sunshine pumper".
I'm not a "Sunshine pumper". I just don't believe that one's everyday life should be adversely affected by losses in pro, college, or high school ball games. Maybe war, death, cancer - that kind of stuff- but not ball games.
A lot of posters here seem to be on the verge of suicide. A lot cannot drop it. They have to be back on this site every day to carp about it, again. A lot will start reading this comment - get mad at me about it - and immediately post a rebuttal, without ever finish reading the comment. So what. I'm content. They are not and it's because of stupid sports that they aren't.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 5:37 pm to LuckyTiger57
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Poor kids who are projected to go high in NFL draft are going to leave regardless of how good a team is. It’s simple economics, get used to it. Poor and high projection equals 3 years and done.
true of a lot not 100%
the measuring stick, as it were, IMHO is whether they feel it is LIKELY that the can be in the NC playoffs or not
will not persuade all, but if the answer is YES, it will persuade some.
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