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re: I just don't get it....Why do all of our guys leave?

Posted on 1/16/18 at 6:16 am to
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17457 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 6:16 am to
I'd just like to make the point that on the average, and we have the largest sample size in all of CFB, LSU players fare quite well in the NFL.

With that being true, our players (again, on the average) aren't leaving "too early".

It would be one thing if they leave, en masse or in lower numbers, and go un-drafted or get cut as draftees. That would point to they are getting bad advice (and poor recruiting and/or development). But they are not.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 6:39 am to
Provide numbers if you are going to claim avg.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
63373 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 6:50 am to
It amazes me the amount of people on this site that encourage LSU players to skip the bowl game or leave campus early. If you are a first round pick, sure, I understand (about the draft, not the bowl). But LSU loses guys like Malachi Dupree. LSU loses more underclassmen to the NFL draft than any other school and it shows with our 9-4 records. One would think the schools that annually compete for the CFB Playoff Spots would lead in underclassmen declaring, seeing as their teams win the most games. Nope, come to LSU, maybe win a Texas Bowl, then bolt as soon as you can.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 6:54 am
Posted by jeff70121
Metairie
Member since Dec 2011
4357 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:19 am to
Tired of The Rant.....
Posted by tonydtiger
Central Mississippi
Member since Oct 2007
2557 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:23 am to
quote:

LSU sells their program on being NFLU. Stay 3 years go pro.


This is definitely the way Les whored the program out to recruits.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19149 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:24 am to
with a few exceptions, it has nothing to do with the college program. It's all about NFL draft grade and money.

And there's nothing wrong with that.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160442 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:24 am to
I mean frick its gotten so bad you have people jumping for joy and saying "ohhhh but I thought all our players leave early!!" over a late round OL returning and a safety that had no prayer of getting draft returning. We should assume guys like that are coming back
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19149 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:26 am to
quote:

quote:
LSU sells their program on being NFLU. Stay 3 years go pro.
quote:

This is definitely the way Les whored the program out to recruits.
I'm no Miles fan, but this is absurd.

You really wanted Miles to not go after 4 and 5* recruits because they might leave after 3 years? That's stratosphericly idiotic.

Posted by LSU 318 LSU
El Cerrito Place
Member since Jan 2011
4278 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Playing for Yaw Yaw vs playing for Dabo. Playoff vs Shitty bowl.


This is the only answer
Posted by ReelTiger1
Member since Sep 2017
1111 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:05 am to
Because the player know how bad MILES fricked up the program and then LSU fricked it up even more with Coach O.

Player used to commit to certain universities in hopes of winning a National Championship and get a degree, and then hopefully to the NFL.

Now they are only concerned with making it to the NFL so they either leave early or find a Coach that will give them a better chance to make the NFL.

Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2422 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:10 am to
stop bringing up the 1%. If your a projected top 20 pick you leave. Simple as that.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:27 am to
While a lot of what has been said are factors, I feel each player asks himself this question ?

How likely is that I will really play in the NC ?

If they are on a team that has been in it, or close to it, they will believe that it can be done and could possibly stay; however, if it along shot, or very long shot and they can not visualize the possibility, they will likely go for the NFL $.

Teams like Bama, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma and Georgia have an easier sale, because they are likely, or it is possible that they will be in it....a matter or "probabilities".

Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7078 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:07 am to
quote:

I agree with what you said but these are NOT fricking kids. They are grown arse men.



Yeah, 18-22 year old kids on a college roster are just that...no life experience outside of wind sprints, blocking drills and the occasional romp with Susie cotton crotch on her mother's couch.

However, each deserves to be able to start becoming a man anytime they wish by making their own way in the world.
Posted by mdtiger1
Great Northwest Louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
1435 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:25 am to
VERSUS millions of dollars - that is bull crap. Each decision is based on its own merit. You guys are stretching to knock LSU's program. Why not become a fan elsewhere if it is so bothersome.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:27 am to
How many of our player's are projected top 20 pick? 1?
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2422 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:30 am to
The kid from stanford is projected top 20. Absolutely no reason for him to stay.

Also, there was absolutely no reason for Jarvis Landry, ODB, Fournette, etc. etc. to stay. Be rational with your thoughts.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:34 am to
In the year 2018 how many of LSUs players that declared for the draft projected in the top 20?
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2422 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:36 am to
99% of these collegiate athletes come from nothing. Let it go and let them go chase the money.

I know it hurts your feelings to see them leave Baton Rouge, but give it a break.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7760 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:38 am to
quote:

I just don't get it....



You really should have just stopped there
Posted by SaintInBham
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2015
980 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:40 am to
So what your data shows is that O was not an upgrade from Miles.

OK, I'm in.
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