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re: I hope I am wrong but - the SEC offices are full of Alabama Grads - Key guy gets tossed
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:26 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:26 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
quote:ok fine. There were bad calls that went Bama's way.
Go back and watch the Bama/Tennessee game from a few weeks ago. If that wasn't a concerted effort by the officials to favor Bama, then that particular crew has no business officiating a pee wee league game, much less one at the college level.
Now, to be intellectually honest, go back and watch that game -- but now look for bad calls that went Tennessee's way.
Report back what you find. I guarantee you there'll be plenty. Just like in every game, in every sport, for every team.
It all depends on your perspective.
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:49 pm to PurpleandGeauld
quote:no, I'm not naive. I know there's corruption, particularly in government.
You are one of those dumb people that believe rich and powerful people don't bribe goverment/law enforcement to get away with things most people would not get away with. Everything that involves significant money (like college sports for instance) has conspiracies to cheat going on.
I just don't buy that there's systemic cheating going on, involving referees or SEC home office bias. I just don't buy it. If it were going on, there would be someone along the way that leaked it.
Now I do believe schools/boosters pay players and there's dirty recruiting going on. But that happens everywhere -- even in our perfect little corner of the world.
quote:no, not dumb. And me being involved? Now that's REALLY stretching the conspiracy theory.
If you think otherwise you are dumb as a brick. Or else you are involved.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:55 pm to atltiger6487
Pawl. The refs cheat for bama pawl. Fix it pawl. Bammer only wins cuz they cheat pawl. Pawl the REC causes hurricanes pawl
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:55 pm to atltiger6487
quote:
Now, to be intellectually honest, go back and watch that game -- but now look for bad calls that went Tennessee's way
There were at least 3 drive-killing penalties against Tennessee, and that doesn't include the ridiculous stoppage of play when Tennessee was about to run a trick play and Bama was out of position. The refs stopped the clock and gave no explanation, thus allowing Bama defenders to get a look at the formation and prepare.
Do I think that every single call that benefits Bama is intentional? No, I don't. However, you have to be either blind or a Bama homer not to notice the pattern that has existed over the years whenever Bama is in trouble. It's gotten much worse since Bama has risen to the top of college football.
The SEC realizes that, from a money perspective, it's best for the conference to always have a team at the top. Therefore, they will do everything in their power to protect their investment.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 4:11 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
quote:yea, it's amazing how the SEC has fixed it so no SEC has beaten Bama. Oh, wait:
The SEC realizes that, from a money perspective, it's best for the conference to always have a team at the top. Therefore, they will do everything in their power to protect their investment.
Auburn 2017
Ole Miss 2015
Ole Miss 2014
Auburn 2013
A&M 2012
LSU 2011
South Carolina, LSU, Auburn 2010
All except So. Carolina are SEC West, which really hurts.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 4:35 pm to atltiger6487
quote:
it's amazing how the SEC has fixed it so no SEC has beaten Bama
I never said that.
quote:
All except So. Carolina are SEC West, which really hurts.
Yep. For some reason, we can't get it done.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 4:41 pm to TigerCliff777
You sound like the “tit boy”, preemptively whining about officials
Posted on 11/7/19 at 5:07 pm to atltiger6487
quote:
I don't deny that refs make mistakes - sometimes horrible mistakes. I'm just saying there's no conspiracy.
There's a massive difference between being incompetent and being corrupt.
It is not where they sit down and plan to frick everyone and cheat to help Bama. It is cognitive dissonance. They see things through the lense of a fan.
When you see a hit by an LSU player, it’s always a clean hit. It s never late.
When you see a pass break up it’s a good play, not interference. It s never holding. It’s never targeting when it’s an LSU player in the eyes of a fan because you see it through the eyes of a fan.
This is what happens in the SEC office. The people that are there are emotionally invested in Alabama winning and they subconsciously see everything through the lense of that.
Then they think that Alabama doing well and making the playoffs is good for all the SEC so if a call is missed against say Tennessee, it doesn’t matter because Tennessee isn’t making the playoffs so just as soon let it go so the SEC through Alabama can succeed.
See what I mean. It’s not a conspiracy per say, it’s human nature and unfair to all the other teams.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 11/7/19 at 6:11 pm to Wtxtiger
It's not being paranoid, an excuse or a sore loser to emphatically know & accept that the SEC (Birmingham) Office is heavily staffed, lead by a majority of Alabama Grads, Fans & Supporters. Being in Birmingham - this is normal.
The Head of Officials - hiring, firing, managing SEC Referees; along with the "Live Game (Film) Play Review Official" (who makes & has Final Decision/Call Authority) are all done @ the SEC Office in Birmingham, Alabama. The President, all Leadership, Management & Staff......Live & Work in and around Birmingham, Tuscaloosa. As does their Wives, Husbands, Parents, Children, Neighbors, In-Laws, etc. They attend Church, belong to Country Clubs, Kids attend local Schools, see Doctors, Bank, etc. etc.
All of the above is the DEFINITION of a CONFLICT OF INTEREST. Impossible to not be effected, have bias (if even unconscious)!
The real proof however, is the DECADES of FAVORABLE CALLS, BREAKS, SCHEDULING, ETC. THE UNIVERSITY of ALABAMA HAS CONSISTENTLY RECEIVED, BENEFITED FROM & ENJOYED!
It is the REALITY. TO BEAT ALABAMA - YOU MUST NOT ONLY BEAT THEIR FOOTBALL TEAM, PLAYERS & COACHES. YOU MUST ALSO BEAT THE HOME TOWN ALABAMA REFEREES. YOU MUST WIN TWICE (2X).
IT IS A FACT!
The Head of Officials - hiring, firing, managing SEC Referees; along with the "Live Game (Film) Play Review Official" (who makes & has Final Decision/Call Authority) are all done @ the SEC Office in Birmingham, Alabama. The President, all Leadership, Management & Staff......Live & Work in and around Birmingham, Tuscaloosa. As does their Wives, Husbands, Parents, Children, Neighbors, In-Laws, etc. They attend Church, belong to Country Clubs, Kids attend local Schools, see Doctors, Bank, etc. etc.
All of the above is the DEFINITION of a CONFLICT OF INTEREST. Impossible to not be effected, have bias (if even unconscious)!
The real proof however, is the DECADES of FAVORABLE CALLS, BREAKS, SCHEDULING, ETC. THE UNIVERSITY of ALABAMA HAS CONSISTENTLY RECEIVED, BENEFITED FROM & ENJOYED!
It is the REALITY. TO BEAT ALABAMA - YOU MUST NOT ONLY BEAT THEIR FOOTBALL TEAM, PLAYERS & COACHES. YOU MUST ALSO BEAT THE HOME TOWN ALABAMA REFEREES. YOU MUST WIN TWICE (2X).
IT IS A FACT!
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:20 pm to tigerMike
quote:
I'm not getting all up in the middle of this, but I lol'ed at "tit boy"
most you don’t know the old story that a bunch of Matt’s tit boys stalk my threads - anything I post like - Geaux Tigers gets a auto 14 are so down votes - it’s the tit boys that never handled my give O a chance from the beginning
I’m a old dumb arse ignorant plant worker with little education plus I know I’m a awful poster.
My grammar and spelling is always suspect but I love my Tigers. Now that O is in they have become underground sleuths.
Geaux Tigers Beat Bama
Posted on 11/8/19 at 4:41 am to atltiger6487
quote:
nearly any business will have an overwhelming number of employees from the city or region where they're located. Nothing odd about that. And it seems to be logical that most people living in Birmingham, Alabama went to school in Alabama.
You're wrong. And the reason you're wrong is because I checked against that by considering UAB which is actually in Birmingham and Auburn. Both are vastly underrepresented compared to University of Alabama.
So there goes your Theory.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 4:44 am to atltiger6487
quote:
Stop this nonsensical bitching about the SEC office. Football games are won on the field.
So I guess the Saints didn't go to the Superbowl last year because they lost it on the field. I wonder what would have happened if a different officiating crew worked the game? Would the Saints have been in the Super Bowl last year? I don't need a crystal ball to tell you with 100% certainty, yes.
In many games it only takes a play/call or two here or there to completely change the outcome. It's like you've never watched football before.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 6:16 am to TigerCliff777
If we’re going full conspiracy theory, then it actually makes more sense to have a LSU Victory here.
The country is tired of Bama/Clemson. I think the playoff committee will dread having this matchup again. The ratings would be terrible.
The country is tired of Bama/Clemson. I think the playoff committee will dread having this matchup again. The ratings would be terrible.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 7:07 am to atltiger6487
quote:
nearly any business will have an overwhelming number of employees from the city or region where they're located. Nothing odd about that. And it seems to be logical that most people living in Birmingham, Alabama went to school in Alabama.
This is not untrue, but I think you are missing a critical point here.
The SEC is not a “normal” business. It is a regulating body that oversees the mutual interests of 14 equal members. It’s integrity relies on its ability to ensure fair competition between those 14 entities.
A governing body with the mission of ensuring fairness should be very concerned with how it is perceived by the public, especially if that body is in charge of administering hundreds of millions of dollars in funds. In other words, the SEC should appear to be beyond reproach when it comes to its basic structures and procedures. Among the most critical of its structures is its staffing.
If one of the 14 entities that make up the SEC is over-represented in the home office, then the SEC’s perception of fairness begins with doubt. An organization that truly values fairness would not allow even the perception of this... because it would be proactive enough to eliminate this simplest possibility of corruption from its org chart.
The SEC either does not realize this or value this.
Thus, the suspicion.
It would be easy enough to fix. It’s not like the SEC cannot attract highly qualified people from its 14 members to its home office. People from all over the world work in various US cities from coast to coast. Many of them are not even affiliated with an SEC school. Imagine that in the SEC home office.
Would that seem to be more fair than 60% University of Alabama staffing?
You cannot blame people for being suspicious. The SEC generates its own suspicion and does not seem to care.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:38 am to SpqrTiger
quote:
If one of the 14 entities that make up the SEC is over-represented in the home office, then the SEC’s perception of fairness begins with doubt. An organization that truly values fairness would not allow even the perception of this... because it would be proactive enough to eliminate this simplest possibility of corruption from its org chart ...
People from all over the world work in various US cities from coast to coast. Many of them are not even affiliated with an SEC school. Imagine that in the SEC home office. Would that seem to be more fair than 60% University of Alabama staffing?
Serious question: Have you actually checked the school affiliation of the SEC office staff?
Rather than spout this continued falsehood, I encourage you (and anyone else) to look up the information.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:21 am to Sauron
its the reason hits by Bama DL on QBs are just good clean hard hits but the same type hits on their QBs are often penalized as spearing or roughing the passer
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:21 am to coolcorgi
quote:so where would you want the SEC office to be? Clearly it's going to be in the southeast. If it's in Atlanta, people would bitch about UGA bias. Nashville? Nope, UT and Vandy bias. Orlando or Tampa? Gator bias. New Orleans? Well, you know.
The Head of Officials - hiring, firing, managing SEC Referees; along with the "Live Game (Film) Play Review Official" (who makes & has Final Decision/Call Authority) are all done @ the SEC Office in Birmingham, Alabama.
All of the above is the DEFINITION of a CONFLICT OF INTEREST. Impossible to not be effected, have bias (if even unconscious)!
Wherever the SEC office is located, it will be staffed primarily with people from that city, which will overwhelming be people who graduated from a college in that state.
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