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re: I don't understand the Mainieri hate

Posted on 5/21/17 at 12:01 am to
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77240 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 12:01 am to
there have been several notable incidents that have been documented on here throughout the years. Please don't act like this is something you've never heard of.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
130786 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 12:08 am to
Oh, I've heard of it on here.

That doesn't mean it's true just because someone on the Rant says it.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77240 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 12:09 am to
Hmm....I got it
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 1:56 am to
since 2010, 10 programs (with their current hc) have played more cws games than lsu. 2 other programs have played as many. that is absolutely not acceptable for the premier program in the nation. lsu should be as competitive in omaha as anybody, especially over a 7 year period and that has just not been the case.

i am curious to see if this postseason is more of the same - the tigers peaked too early. i certainly acknowledge that mainieri has been the most consistent in the postseason in that he's avoided the lows that some other coaches have gone through. however, i find it pitiful that this is the best thing he can put on his resume during that span. hey, i sucked the least.
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
18278 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 2:11 am to
This dude here. What about from 2009. This frick tard always chooses 2010 for his stats
Posted by jlntiger
Member since Feb 2011
1489 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:10 am to
The hate is for the lack of success in the postseason. One win in Omaha in 7 years isn't acceptable . You don't have to win it every year but a NC every 5 isn't unreasonable for a program of LSU's status. 13 team should have been CPM's second title
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:18 am to
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watch how he has allowed Bush to piss this game away


c'mon man; he hasn't "allowed" Bush to do anything. pitching is a position of skills but also emotions and brains. a pitcher has to make adjustments to grow. PM's approach is to give his pitchers adequate time to do that. you don't like that, fine. but to expect and demand him to be able to know the future is unrealistic.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:39 am to
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What about from 2009. This frick tard always chooses 2010 for his stats
because it shows a trend. a long one. it also shows that '09 is the exception. but i wouldn't expect someone who is irrationally defending pm to understand that. carry on with the name calling
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 8:40 am
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80112 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:42 am to
No, it doesn't. Start from the beginning of his tenure, 2007 if you want to be fair.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:55 am to
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Isn't the real knock on Mainieri is the way he tends to throw players under the bus?



this has always been my main beef. But hes cruising now so let's ride this biotch to Omaha.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
130786 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:04 am to
Posted by Indrid Cold
Alabama
Member since Dec 2016
74 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 9:08 am to
cause assholezz, malcontents, negatigers, band wagoners, and fools just simply can't not be WHAT THEY ARE....
Posted by Crawfish Anytime
Lower Alabama
Member since Dec 2016
132 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 10:00 am to
Those people are idiots. I live in Alabama and when they lost to Clemson, some fans were talking trash about Saban. Unfortunately, there is a segment of population that will always be idiots no matter what the situation. You can't please those that have no brain!
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
20493 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 10:25 am to
"Anyone with baseball knowledge"? Coach Dunn has run a MLB's entire pitching program, from the minors up to the big leagues, for years & years. In addition, he has been college baseball's National Assistant COY. CPM is in the College Baseball's HOF, has won the SEC's COY several times, won numerous SEC regular season & tournament championships, a NC. Safe to say both have "basic baseball knowledge". And just for shites & giggles, what is on your resume that makes you more knowledgeable than either?
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
2889 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 11:04 am to
It is pretty convenient that your standard of success is winning a few games in Omaha, but not winning the national championship. So you like to cite Florida and TCU. Yeah they have won a few mostly meaningless games in Omaha. Of course they are 0-forever on what matters there - winning a title.

A better standard for measuring success is how Mainieri has fared in the toughest conference year in year out. Has anyone been better? If so, who? He has been overwhelmingly successful there. Winning the conference should always be LSU's primary goal. Of course the ultimate goal is winning it all. That is just gravy. And we know how hard and far away that can be. Just ask TCU and Florida, for example.
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 11:09 am
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213341 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 12:19 pm to
Fats all over here....
Posted by mdtiger1
Great Northwest Louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
1435 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 12:54 pm to
Right! There are a lot of ignorant fans out there!
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

No, it doesn't.
yes it does. if you don't know this, then there's no helping you

quote:

Start from the beginning of his tenure, 2007 if you want to be fair.
explain how this changes anything. the trend is even MORE evident when you go back to '07.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

It is pretty convenient that your standard of success is winning a few games in Omaha, but not winning the national championship
convenient? you mean how elite teams measure their success?

winning a nc is amazing but, the programs who are consistently competitive at the cws are the clearly the best. they are winning the most at the highest level. the fact that this needs to be stated is just astounding.

quote:

Yeah they have won a few mostly meaningless games in Omaha
do you know what oxymoron means? you equated cws games and meaningless. my word

quote:

Of course they are 0-forever on what matters there - winning a title
and then people like you will go on and on about how critics only expect pm to win championships - which is unreasonable. you can't have it both ways

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A better standard for measuring success is how Mainieri has fared in the toughest conference year in year out
no, this is absolutely wrong. the cws is what matters. that's what counts. regular season games in a sport with a postseason serve only to get you to the postseason. that's it - nothing more. they are the appetizer to the main course.

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Winning the conference should always be LSU's primary goal.
this is loser, beta talk

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Just ask TCU and Florida, for example
those 2 are DESTROYING lsu at the cws. it's not even close. florida has played 3 TIMES the number of cws games that lsu has since 2010. way more competitive
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 5/21/17 at 1:30 pm to
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This frick tard always chooses 2010 for his stats
you are obviously unaware of this but, even if you include '07-'09, that STILL doesn't make mainieri the best. it gets him in the top 5, but even that is getting tenuous. why are you ok with that loser talk? are you a loser?
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