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re: I don't understand the all in for O and the never O crowds
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:36 am to Franktowntiger7
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:36 am to Franktowntiger7
There are very few people that are "never O."
All most critics have ever said is that they need to see results before believing in a career loser. Thus far, he has not proven that he can change the trajectory of this program, which is what I though we wanted in a new coach.
All most critics have ever said is that they need to see results before believing in a career loser. Thus far, he has not proven that he can change the trajectory of this program, which is what I though we wanted in a new coach.
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:18 am to Franktowntiger7
#1 I did NOT like the O hire! However, he is our HC and an intelligent person will support their team's Head Coach for the first 2 to 4 years even if they truly believe that Coach is not the right choice. IMO if to want your program to succeed you must get behind your Coach and support them until it is apparent that he will not reach a realistic level of expected success. At LSU I believe a realistic level of success, should be no less than 9 wins a year with 5 of them being in conference, win the West every 2 to 4 years, win the SEC every 3 to 5, win a NC once or twice every 15 and recruit at a top 5 level. Right now O is at the low end of those expectations in his first year and I'm gonna support the man 100% in order to give him the opportunity to prove what he can do... AT LSU!
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 11:21 am
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:26 am to Franktowntiger7
It's all or nothing baw!
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:28 am to SulphursFinest
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Support the coach, no matter who the coach is.
I support my alma mater. bullshite like your statement is how the Joe Pa cult started.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:28 am to Franktowntiger7
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:28 am to Franktowntiger7
There are plenty all in for O haters. There may be 2-3 posters on here all in for O supporters.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:30 am to Mo Jeaux
Now it is cult like. Good god you are pathetic. I know it is tough to have taken the stance you have to on O and see the program trending positive.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:44 am to Tiger1988
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I think it is because people have seen what happens when we have had bad head coaches in the past and how long it took to get out of that pit of misery.
Exactly, it will take at least 2 to 3 years to move on from this shitty hire. Let me see if I get this right Miles is unemployed and nobody wants him and now we have O which nobody in this country would hire except LSU. What in the hell does that say about this program. Miles should have been fired 2 years before he was and it will be the same with gumbO.This we coming shite sounds good to you have to play somebody.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:44 am to Franktowntiger7
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The offense actually had a pulse against Bama.
I am so tired of hearing this. We scored 10 fricking points. When we had successes offensively we went away from them. We threw one slant pass the entire night, and it was for a first down. We saw the wildcat in the third quarter, had a touchdown drive, and then went away from it. We had a lot of 50/50 balls to Chark, and I though canada’s whole MO was short to intermediate, high percentage passes. Instead they asked Etling to continually do what he can’t do, deep passes.
The game was literally never in doubt for Bama after they scored their touchdown.
I won’t say never O. I would love to be proven wrong, but O has done nothing to make me think he deserved the hire.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:13 pm to Purplehaze44
Of all the O myths, the bama one is the most pernicious.
They shut us out last year at home, and they were taking a victory knee at the end of the game this year.
They shut us out last year at home, and they were taking a victory knee at the end of the game this year.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:15 pm to Franktowntiger7
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. I would say considering his history he would have beaten State
This is an idiotic statement
You don't beat teams bc of your history.
Youre logic is severely flawed
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:19 pm to Ignignot
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You don't beat teams bc of your history.
Youre logic is severely flawed
Agreed. Now if some would stop insisting that Miles would never have beaten Alabama again because of the history in that series we’ll be on solid ground
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:20 pm to broadcaster
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can’t see how anybody can’t get behind O right now with how you turn the team around at the beginning of the year
you answered your own question. quote:
were screwed for at least a few years.
the people that thought this have no idea what they are talking about
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:24 pm to Nomojeaux
nomojeaux
you need help.
you need help.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:28 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Of all the O myths, the bama one is the most pernicious
we were a 58 yard wildcat run from being held to 3 points in 2 years against bama.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:37 pm to Franktowntiger7
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I don't understand the all in for O and the never O crowds
I don't understand why people keep starting thread after thread about O, regurgitating the same mess.
We Comin
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:50 pm to Nix to Twillie
quote:This is where I sit and where just about all of my friends/contacts do.
I support him. Just not convinced he’ll have staying power—but he has plenty of time to prove he does and i’ll be happy to see him succeed.
Not comfortable with some of his Staff hires though.
Dennis Johnson as DL Coach. Gimme a break. He's a former DB. WTF does a DB know about DL? Why not hire an experienced DL coach that played the position?
No way Saban would ever hire an inexperienced former DB to coach DL's.
Mickey Joseph is DC 2.0. Has no clue how to coach and develop WR's. Strictly a NOLA recruiter.
The worst of the bunch just took care of itself. (JG)
All these "Weak" hires leave major ???? about Orgeron.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:56 pm to Franktowntiger7
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However, people saying this was a great year, explain that to me. We lost to MSU and Troy and immediately the O fans said that Les would have lost that game. I would say considering his history he would have beaten State. It's a joke if you think he would have lost to Troy. How someone can say O is great after that is beyond me.
I don't think we had a great year and I didn't agree with the hire at all.
However, no coach was beating MSU. We had a depleted DL and they ran all over us all night. Also, the offensive line hadn't figured it out...and the offense as a good ole wasn't clicking yet. The offense didn't really start to function until after Florida.
Ordering weathered the storm of Troy (clearly a bad loss) and kept the team together.
In the flip side, he was helped by the reality that this was a poor SEC relative to the norm. But, to be fair, he did beat Auburn.
Bottom line, despite the very bad loss, Orgeron did a good job overall. I'd rate it a B-
Next year will tel us more. If we go 9-3 next year I think that bodes well for the future. Next year will be a much tougher schedule and we will be breaking in a new QB.
My biggest concern is about the long range program issues. He did a great job recruiting last year. That class given his obstacles was amazing. He needs to have a big finish this year and have a great class next year. Ultimately, that will determine his fate.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:09 pm to moneyg
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However, no coach was beating MSU.
how about making it look like lsu was at least p5 program?
miss st wasnt/isnt some great team.
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Next year will tel us more. If we go 9-3 next year I think that bodes well for the future. Next year will be a much tougher schedule and we will be breaking in a new QB.
yay lets keep lowering that bar for success.
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:39 pm to Tiger1988
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I think it is because people have seen what happens when we have had bad head coaches in the past and how long it took to get out of that pit of misery.
This season was a facade in terms of record as the poster above pointed out because of how bad the conference was - especially the SEC West.
We haven’t seen that in years quite frankly.
Orgeron is a known commodity when he was in fact a full time head coach.the difference in a guy that took his team through spring and fall tells a lot about him as a head coach. Well this season was a wash because of the schedule was so poor and the fact he had 2 very bad loses and one good win. The UF win was ugly also. Then losing to a depleted Bama team by 2 TDs didn’t help his case.
I’ll give him next year to redeem himself. A 8-10 win season next year and 2 Top 5-10 recruiting classes is worthy of keeping him the 3rd year.
Anything less than that we might as well cut bait.
All this is very good but he promised the playoffs if I remember his own words just for the record.
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