re: I do not dislike Coach Mc in any way, but he's in over his head...

He averaged 4 ppg last year and 3 the year before . So stop trying to convince everyone that he can score. And you're pretty dense. I didn't say Wilkinson was a two guard or point guard. I stated what we need.


But I'm done responding to you. I'm not going to bash the kid because I'm trying to prove you wrong. You aren't going to admit you are FOS

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it's about culture , recruiting for next year.

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his recruiting ranking is 51st. he has to get some elite players through the portal in order to actually compete in the SEC.

Well I guess if KState can do it, everyone can. There must be a dozen Keonte Johnson's hanging around in the portal every May. I wonder why no one mentions Arkansas in these discussions about rebuilding rosters anymore?

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Well I guess if KState can do it, everyone can

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Did Kansas St not have LESS players than LSU from the previous season return this?

Did the new coach not have to completely rebuild their roster after getting the job?

Do they not play in what has been the toughest conference in college basketball?

ALL of these are cited as excuses why no criticism should be heaped upon McMahon as his LSU teams are getting blown out night after night in SEC. Yet, KSU's new coach didn't seem to accept his team was supposed to be destroyed from start to finish in conference play.

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There must be a dozen Keonte Johnson's hanging around in the portal every May.

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You mean the guy who didn't play basketball for two seasons? But even then, LSU also has an impact transfer, KJ Williams, who is giving them virtually the same production at Johnson. So at best those two are a wash. The difference is one HC is getting the absolute best out of a completely new roster while the other appears to be staring aimlessly out into the distance while his team is blown out of a game before the 10:00 mark in the first half.

Again, no one expected LSU to win the SEC. No one expected them to finish in the top 4-5 of the conference. No one expected them to make the NCAA Tournament. But this team is not just losing tough games to good opponents. They aren't even competitive in their games right now. And that's not just against top 10 Alabama and Tennessee. That's at home against a good, but not great Auburn team and a very mediocre Texas A&M team.

There is a world of difference between acknowledging this likely wasn't going to be one of the best LSU teams in the past decade or so, and watching them seemingly trending to be one of the worst LSU teams of the past decade. No reasonable person is demanding McMahon be fired after 3/4 of his first season. But the bending over backwards to excuse what has been terrible play as of late and frankly an inability to meet even the very low expectations for the team is also ridiculous. He's not doing a good job right now. Hopefully that starts to change quickly with what should be a "lighter" schedule after tonight, but there are not a lot of positives to see in the program at the moment.

Between the Murray transfers, Miller, and a couple of highly rated freshmen there is certainly enough to at least expect a team who can finish middle of the pack and be in bubble/NIT discussion. Since Kentucky this has looked like a 2009-11 Trent Johnson team. Sure we’ve caught some tough breaks with Miller coming off an injury and in a slump, Mwani injured, Hill going through something, etc but this team should not be THIS bad. I’m amazed at how they seemingly don’t know how to run the floor which kills any transition opportunities and forces us to go into halfcourt where we just don’t have any bucket getters (outside of Hannibal who has to perform miracles to get to the rim with how deep teams are sagging off)

He knew he had a terrible hand when he came here and was going to have to weather the storm. He had an empty roster and the cloud of probation hanging over the program made it very difficult to recruit. He has several good pieces that unfortunately don't really fit well together, but in reality he had to get whoever he could.

Will all that over, he should be able to hit the portal hard this offseason and hopefully get a few high school recruits, then start building for the future recruiting this summer.

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The two players he had never entered the portal to my knowledge,

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What does that have to do with anything? All that matters is who was on the roster when the season started. LSU had 3 guys from last year's team on this roster on opening day. KSU had 2.

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As for the B12 being the best conference, KState is their leader. Where would you have KState in the SEC? How do you think they would have fared against the schedule LSU opened the conference with?

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The Big 12 currently has 6 ranked teams. The SEC has 3.
Kansas St has wins AT (current) #10 Texas and AT (current) #17 Baylor. They also have a win over #9 Kansas. Their only Big 12 loss was at #11 TCU.

LSU has played a tough schedule. No doubt. But not only are they losing, they aren't even remotely competitive. 40 point loss to Alabama; 13 point loss to A&M; 18 point loss to Auburn; 21 point loss to Tennessee.

K-State is beating good teams...on the road. LSU is getting blown out of games before the under 8:00 timeout in the first half.

The argument is not that LSU should be ranked #5 in the nation. It's that the blanket excuse LSU should be getting destroyed game after game because of "everything McMahon had to deal with" doesn't fly when a new coach and program who had to also rebuild their roster from scratch is thriving against at least equal, if not tougher competition. Iowa St. did the same thing last year (though not quite to this extent) in the same conference. So the notion LSU fans should be willing to accept 2, 3, 4 years of poor results just because of the state of the program when McMahon took over doesn't fly.

He'll rightfully get his opportunity to improve. But the fact of the matter is he is underachieving right now even relative to the already minimal expectations the team had going into the season.

Well it still depends on recruiting, Tennessee Auburn Alabama Arkansas and Kentucky recruiting at high level. WW recruited at same level, MM will never recruit at that level.
Coaching may get better
Recruiting don’t think so

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Just watched his presser and he's already defeated.

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I think most on this Team Has Quit on Him and Their School for what its worth to them.