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re: I do not dislike Coach Mc in any way, but he's in over his head...
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:43 pm to geauxtigers33
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:43 pm to geauxtigers33
“Talent deficient”
LSU- 5 top 100 players, 2 top 30 and KJ Williams
ATM- 3 top 100 guys, 1 top 30 and blew us out
Florida- 3 top 100, 0 top 30, beat us easily at home
Auburn- 4 top 100, 1 top 30, blew us out
Missouri- 1 top 100, 0 top 30
Vandy- 1 top 100, 0 top 30
UGA- 3 top 100, 0 top 30
All ahead of us, some by a lot. Only Bama and UK have more top 100 players, Tennessee, Arky and Ole Miss have the same amount of top 100 guys as LSU, Tenn and Arky have more top 30. There’s no talent deficiency, our coach isn’t any good.
LSU- 5 top 100 players, 2 top 30 and KJ Williams
ATM- 3 top 100 guys, 1 top 30 and blew us out
Florida- 3 top 100, 0 top 30, beat us easily at home
Auburn- 4 top 100, 1 top 30, blew us out
Missouri- 1 top 100, 0 top 30
Vandy- 1 top 100, 0 top 30
UGA- 3 top 100, 0 top 30
All ahead of us, some by a lot. Only Bama and UK have more top 100 players, Tennessee, Arky and Ole Miss have the same amount of top 100 guys as LSU, Tenn and Arky have more top 30. There’s no talent deficiency, our coach isn’t any good.
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 5:47 pm
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Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:51 pm to Madking
quote:Now this is the height of dishonesty. We haven't played any of them yet. In fact the only team we have played who isn't above .500 in conference is Arkansas.
Missouri- 1 top 100, 0 top 30
Vandy- 1 top 100, 0 top 30
UGA- 3 top 100, 0 top 30
quote:As for the rest of these, hs rankings don't mean squat, especially when McMahon didn't even recruit most of them out of hs, and the 2 he did were likely the only players left unsigned last April.
LSU- 5 top 100 players, 2 top 30 and KJ Williams
ATM- 3 top 100 guys, 1 top 30 and blew us out
Florida- 3 top 100, 0 top 30, beat us easily at home
Auburn- 4 top 100, 1 top 30, blew us out
And BTW, who are our "top 30" players???
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:55 pm to mmcgrath
Facts are not dishonest your narratives are. I find it telling that you don’t even have knowledge of these things yet you act as if they’re false when they’re 100% true.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:56 pm to mmcgrath
You’re an excuse maker so data means nothing to you. You’ll either deny it, twist it or build double standards to dismiss them.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:56 pm to drizztiger
I see it more as being a ‘realist’.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 6:32 pm to Madking
quote:Yet you always fail to address ANY points. Who are our "top 30" players playah?
You’re an excuse maker so data means nothing to you. You’ll either deny it, twist it or build double standards to dismiss them.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 6:45 pm to mmcgrath
That’s pretty ironic from you. Anytime a point is brought up you ask a diversionary question then pretend it’s the other poster who’s deflecting. Also I see you still haven’t bothered to educate yourself on any of this stuff, just pushing an agenda and making excuses as always. Miller and Ward are both top 30 recruits since you’re too lazy to know anything.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 6:53 pm to mgdtiger
Phillips might be a turnover machine, but so is reed and he plays a fair amount—he even got quite a few starts early on. I’d say fortunately for them his minutes have been reduced… one thing I don’t get is why ward and Phillips don’t come in when they’re down big late. Why not play them a little against Tennessee? It’s not like it could have been any worse
Posted on 1/22/23 at 7:09 pm to Horizon Imperial
Agree and Ward is the biggest head scratcher. The kid has 1 turnover the entire year and plays a position we’re in desperate need of. Phillips to a lesser degree when we’re getting killed on the boards should be out there. Playing him and KJ together would allow for Williams to move away from the basket more without everyone cheating out on him because you’d have that big body down low as an offensive rebounding threat. McMahon’s personnel combinations have been atrocious, that’s why there’s never any space on the floor and we’re so bad on the boards. He doesn’t seem to understand the matchup game at this level.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 7:09 pm to Madking
quote:Ward was ranked 34. Miller was 33. That isn't "top 30".
That’s pretty ironic from you. Anytime a point is brought up you ask a diversionary question then pretend it’s the other poster who’s deflecting. Also I see you still haven’t bothered to educate yourself on any of this stuff, just pushing an agenda and making excuses as always. Miller and Ward are both top 30 recruits since you’re too lazy to know anything.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 7:18 pm to drizztiger
LSU Basketball fans are complete idiots.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 7:47 pm to Lester Earl
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by Lester Earl
Congrats bro. This is the 1st post I've ever liked of yours.....vs 175k downvotes lol. Props for the rational take
Posted on 1/22/23 at 8:08 pm to Madking
quote:
LSU- 5 top 100 players, 2 top 30 and KJ Williams
Cute recruiting rankings you posted
Use your eyes. For example, is Mwani a SEC caliber player? Idgaf what his recruiting rankings were.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 8:40 pm to Madking
I'll give you credit. I have never seen that composite, but they are indeed ranked 29 and 29 there.
Miller, while clearly talented, is having a rough shooting year. Ward is nowhere to be found for whatever reason.
I think this rag tag group is playing about as well as they can, but shots are not falling and they are simply not good at keeping the other team off the offensive boards.
I look forward to the easier part of the schedule where the team can regroup, and hope to see more of Reed and Phillips down the stretch. Maybe even more of Coleman.
Miller, while clearly talented, is having a rough shooting year. Ward is nowhere to be found for whatever reason.
I think this rag tag group is playing about as well as they can, but shots are not falling and they are simply not good at keeping the other team off the offensive boards.
I look forward to the easier part of the schedule where the team can regroup, and hope to see more of Reed and Phillips down the stretch. Maybe even more of Coleman.
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 1/22/23 at 9:14 pm to mmcgrath
Ok the point is for example Kentucky has plenty of talent you’d agree but are underperforming. They’ve done this a few times in recent years despite having multiple lottery pics. It’s not a talent issue it’s coaching and that applies to us as well. Nobody’s saying we should be competing fir the SEC championship but we’re still performing much lower than our talent suggests. Again compared to other schools with less we’re underperforming. That’s not arguable that’s factual.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 9:17 pm to Shaq4prez
Yes he’s had 44 starts for winning LSU teams prior to this season. Is he a stat stuffer, no he’s a 3 and D guy who’s a very good defender and 40+% 3 point shooter. He’s also a big wing which is important because they’re not as abundant in CBB. Not every player is a star, there are plenty of ranked recruits who don’t avg 20 and 10 but are key role players on winning teams.
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 1/22/23 at 10:56 pm to Madking
quote:
Ok the point is for example Kentucky has plenty of talent you’d agree but are underperforming. They’ve done this a few times in recent years despite having multiple lottery pics. It’s not a talent issue it’s coaching and that applies to us as well. Nobody’s saying we should be competing fir the SEC championship but we’re still performing much lower than our talent suggests. Again compared to other schools with less we’re underperforming. That’s not arguable that’s factual.
I will agree on Kentucky underperforming, but as a New Jersey native I can attest that Calipari is very overrated as a coach. He is perfect for the college game because after 3 years players grow wise to him and he starts to throw players under the bus. Jason Kidd, etc saw this and he was run out of the NBA.
The second half, I have a problem with because you expect rankings to translate into talent. In basketball those numbers can be thrown out year to year. Now, I do like the overall talent level, but this year is like the year of misfit toys. Ironically, KJ, Trae, and Fountain are our best players, but none of them have a hs ranking to talk about. Miller will recover if he stays. I hope the best for Mwani. I really hope JHill returns in some capacity. And finally I like Reed and Phillips. Not sure about Ward.
For less than 10 months into his tenure, having to cobble together a team, I don't see why anyone is complaining. It will be fun to watch them grow.
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 1/23/23 at 7:59 am to drizztiger
Knew he was garbage as soon as we hired him. Nobodies walking thru that door and replacing what WW built up. Will suffer through a few more Johnny Jones esque years and then pull the plug
Posted on 1/23/23 at 8:51 am to Big4SALTbro
Vanilla Trent Johnson is apt. Emotionless. Arms crossed. Watching, not coaching. Squeaky clean. Can't recruit at a high level.
this MBB program is on the wrong path.
this MBB program is on the wrong path.
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