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re: How Will Les Miles Be Remembered Down the Line?
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:48 pm to Coon
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:48 pm to Coon
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You are, though. To compare them, you have to ask yourself what Saban would have done if he stayed.
We dont know. What we do know is he lost 3 or more every year but once at lsu.
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You're exactly 100% right. He's changed. A lot. S
You have no clue what youre talking about. He has not changed a lot. They still run a prostyle offense that is built upon the run. Do you even watch Bama play football?
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Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:49 pm to Topwater Trout
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You really don't understand the difference in building a powerhouse and maintaining one. As and job was much harder than CLMs
This ^^^ Prior to Miles coming, LSU had just started becoming a prestigious destination for out of state players. Plus LSU kept nearly all of its top in state players.
Miles arriving when LSU coming into modern day elite status gave him a great head start. That's not taking away his accomplishments, it's just fact.
Add: bottom line-- if CLM didn't lie to us about modernizing the offense at the end of last season, we wouldn't be having this thread right now.
This post was edited on 9/4/16 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:49 pm to ShortyRob
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u said last night that degrading into insults indicates ones argument is poor.
Thats no an insult. He is saying buildimg a powerhouse is harder than maintaining one. Its common knowledge that its the other way around. As much as he posts on here he should know things that are common knowledge.
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:50 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You have no clue what youre talking about. He has not changed a lot. They still run a prostyle offense that is built upon the run. Do you even watch Bama play football?
Well, I'm done here. You think that Saban is the same as he was back then. You're an idiot that can't be reasoned with.
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:51 pm to AjaxFury
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This ^^^ Prior to Miles coming, LSU had just started becoming a prestigious destination for out of state players. Plus LSU kept nearly all of its top in state players.
Building a powerhouse is easier.
My god. Please point to all these programs that are good for a decade and then point to all the programs that have a good 2-3 year run. This is elementary stuff im football man.
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:51 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Answer my other question. The one you also didn't answer last night.
How exactly can last night be reason he must go when you also want to argue that everyone who said it before last night was wrong.
How exactly can last night be reason he must go when you also want to argue that everyone who said it before last night was wrong.
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:52 pm to Coon
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Well, I'm done here. You think that Saban is the same as he was back then. You're an idiot that can't be reasoned with.
Please point to how HE is different. He is different because he had the power to hire an oc that most coaches couldnt have? He is still a great recruiter that believes in defense 1st and still believes you run to set up the pass. So instead of just spouting shite explain your point,
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:52 pm to Coon
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Well, I'm done here. You think that Saban is the same as he was back then. You're an idiot that can't be reasoned with.
Yeah. That's just a patently stupid position on his part.
He seems to think saying it makes it so
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:53 pm to BallHog
A good man...mediocre coach.
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:54 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Building a powerhouse is easier.
How TF is it easier????
You have top recruits that don't even LOOK at your school when you're not a powerhouse.
How is it easier to turn Colorado St into a perennial contender?
Do tell
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:54 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Please point to how HE is different. He is different because he had the power to hire an oc that most coaches couldnt have?
Holy frick man. You're splicing bull shite there.
Hiring a guy out of what you normally would want to run IS CHANGING YOU GODDAMNED IDIOT.
Now I see why you like Miles. You'd refuse to acknowledge the need to change too
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:55 pm to ShortyRob
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How exactly can last night be reason he must go when you also want to argue that everyone who said it before last night was wrong.
Holy shite. I was in favor of firing him if we were getting jimbo. It wast just last night. Ive repeatedly said he can not evaluate qbs and he wont put his players in a position to succeed.
My gripe is with posters saying he was a shitty coach and posters acting like his tenure wasnt the best im lsu history. You can want a change at head coach without shitting on the last 11 years of lsu football.
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:55 pm to BallHog
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How Will Les Miles Be Remembered Down the Line
A great man and a great coach that just stayed too long.
This post was edited on 9/4/16 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:57 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:see, this is why I can get a beer with rick, he knows.
Ive repeatedly said he can not evaluate qbs and he wont put his players in a position to succeed.
choc needs some convincing however his shtick wont allow him to see the light
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:57 pm to ShortyRob
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Hiring a guy out of what you normally would want to run IS CHANGING YOU GODDAMNED IDIOT.
Thats not him changing dumbass. Thats him having enough power to hire an oc that hasnt bene good everywhere. They still run a prostyle offense dumbass.
So please explain how he has changed A LOT by just hiring a coach no one else wanted to hire.
Or are you saying simply hiring Lane Means he has changed alot?
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:57 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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ve repeatedly said he can not evaluate qbs and he wont put his players in a position to succeed.
When did this problem start?
When did it become apparent to you?
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:58 pm to Hulkklogan
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great man and a great coach that just stayed too long
+1
Posted on 9/4/16 at 4:58 pm to ShortyRob
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When did this problem start?
When did it become apparent to you?
2009.
2008 with not putting players in a position to succeed. Everyone in the world could see that Jlee couldnt handle pressure well yet they repeatedly left him without a rb to block and never rolled him out
This post was edited on 9/4/16 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 9/4/16 at 5:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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2009.
So it started on 2009.
How did it manifest itself? What on the field evidence led to to this conclusion?
Posted on 9/4/16 at 5:02 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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They still run a prostyle offense dumbass.
It's not a pro style offense if you mean NFL-style offense. Literally a handful of teams use the FB in NFL, it's almost an extinct position.
If you mean "pro-style" by the classic definition of 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE....that is a dinosaur offense that is lagging behind the curve & hardly has a place anymore in football
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