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How untested is Alabama relative to LSU? A look at some statistics.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:20 am
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:20 am
So, I've gone and compiled "important" statistics to get a snapshot of each team's season to this point. (FBS ranks are out of 129 teams, FCS ranks are out of 124.)
In the below image you will see Bama's and LSU's opponents with their total offense, scoring offense, total defense, and scoring defense rankings next to them. Then there is the average of all these rankings for each team's schedule. I have also included an average number for LSU excluding the Southeastern stats in case anyone was curious since they are a FCS team. Finally, there are the numbers for the next team on their schedule, which will be LSU for Bama and Bama for LSU.
Clearly, Texas A&M has been the best all around team Bama has played so far, and is really the only team with a pulse on defense. Alabama looks to have played better offensive teams, on paper and by yardage, than LSU has, but these arguments can always be "chicken or the egg" arguments (i.e. LSU has played way better defenses, so that may affect LSU's offensive numbers). Though, Alabama has still put up good defensive numbers against some statistically good offenses. On the flip side, LSU has faced far better defenses than Alabama has, once again "chicken or the egg."
I usually like to take these numbers, well the average yardages and whatnot, then compare to a game by game result to see how LSU did vs. the opponent's average. Meaning, did LSU hold them below their averge, etc.?
Anyway, thought I'd start a by the numbers talk. Feel free to include stats that you feel are important or provide a better picture of how the teams stack up.
Source: NCAA stats page
Edit to add: I had a goof in the original run, as I included a "T" for those that were tied in the rankings, which meant those numbers weren't averaged. Seems I also had a goof when excluding Southeastern. All table images should be up to date with those numbers now.
Updated to include pass efficiency defense and passing yards allowed.
In the below image you will see Bama's and LSU's opponents with their total offense, scoring offense, total defense, and scoring defense rankings next to them. Then there is the average of all these rankings for each team's schedule. I have also included an average number for LSU excluding the Southeastern stats in case anyone was curious since they are a FCS team. Finally, there are the numbers for the next team on their schedule, which will be LSU for Bama and Bama for LSU.
Clearly, Texas A&M has been the best all around team Bama has played so far, and is really the only team with a pulse on defense. Alabama looks to have played better offensive teams, on paper and by yardage, than LSU has, but these arguments can always be "chicken or the egg" arguments (i.e. LSU has played way better defenses, so that may affect LSU's offensive numbers). Though, Alabama has still put up good defensive numbers against some statistically good offenses. On the flip side, LSU has faced far better defenses than Alabama has, once again "chicken or the egg."
I usually like to take these numbers, well the average yardages and whatnot, then compare to a game by game result to see how LSU did vs. the opponent's average. Meaning, did LSU hold them below their averge, etc.?
Anyway, thought I'd start a by the numbers talk. Feel free to include stats that you feel are important or provide a better picture of how the teams stack up.
Source: NCAA stats page
Edit to add: I had a goof in the original run, as I included a "T" for those that were tied in the rankings, which meant those numbers weren't averaged. Seems I also had a goof when excluding Southeastern. All table images should be up to date with those numbers now.
Updated to include pass efficiency defense and passing yards allowed.
This post was edited on 10/29/18 at 10:45 am
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:39 am to Sasquatch Smash
Hmm...I decided to look at things if I took Ole Miss out for both teams as a common opponent. The total offense numbers change about the same for both teams, but changes in scoring offense and the defensive categories seem to favor LSU more than Bama with Ole Miss out (i.e. LSU's opponent's scoring defense goes down 10 points without Ole Miss compared to just over 2 points for Bama.) A negative change means that the number lowered indicating a "stronger" opponent and vice versa.
Edit to add....seems I'm talking to myself in here. Ha.
Edit 2: Updated numbers after finding mistakes, and added defensive passing numbers.
Edit to add....seems I'm talking to myself in here. Ha.
Edit 2: Updated numbers after finding mistakes, and added defensive passing numbers.
This post was edited on 10/29/18 at 10:47 am
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:41 am to Sasquatch Smash
This is all a bit brainy for me on a monday morning but I'm trying to focus.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:45 am to Sasquatch Smash
Whats the pass D rankings of Alabama opponents?
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:45 am to Sasquatch Smash
Yeah yeah we get it, they haven't played anyone.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:47 am to Sasquatch Smash
I just interpreted this as BAMA FRICKED
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:48 am to Sasquatch Smash
Question for all who keep posting this like it means anything.
What does it say for LSU that we couldn't do what Bama has done this year against our weak teams on the schedule?
Why couldn't we hang 50 plus on La Tech and SLU and sit our starters the 2nd half?
What does it say for LSU that we couldn't do what Bama has done this year against our weak teams on the schedule?
Why couldn't we hang 50 plus on La Tech and SLU and sit our starters the 2nd half?
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:49 am to tiogatiger19
quote:
Whats the pass D rankings of Alabama opponents?
Yardage allowed or efficiency?
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:51 am to notiger1997
quote:
What does it say for LSU that we couldn't do what Bama has done this year against our weak teams on the schedule?
Why couldn't we hang 50 plus on La Tech and SLU and sit our starters the 2nd half?
Is anyone denying that Alabama appears to have a much better and efficient offense compared to LSU?
As for reasons, maybe it's because LSU has a new offense, started a transfer quarterback that got to campus for fall camp, and, by the numbers, LA Tech is a better defensive team than most on Bama's schedule.
This post was edited on 10/29/18 at 9:53 am
Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:47 am to tiogatiger19
quote:
Whats the pass D rankings of Alabama opponents?
Bump to include those requested stats. Probably all the work I'll do on it today.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 6:08 pm to Sasquatch Smash
That’s a lot of words and numbers for me to not read. Impressive.
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