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re: How much of this should we hang on CPM?
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:20 am to Bootycall
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:20 am to Bootycall
Did not see this coach doing anything to fire up this team. Stayed with the same lineup throughout. Not sure why he did not use his bench more. Real obvious his team continually hit popups and try and pull outside pitches the whole tournament. One of the worst coaching performances I've seen come from a team with capable players. I don't like the fact that this team looked like it was just going through the motions. No excitement whatsoever. Sometimes you have to shakeup your lineup and he didn't. We played not to lose and got embarrassed.
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:23 am to Bayoufightingtiger
Embarrassed? Come on man. Disappointing sure. But we lost two close games to two good teams. Sometimes that happens in baseball and it isn't the coaches fault.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:30 am to The Seaward
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Down three with nine outs left, you need base runners. Outs are precious, you do not give them away especially with a .380/.430/.560 hitter up. Sure he hadn't looked great in the CWS, but I would trust a 300+ PA sample over 2 games.
In the CWS, you can toss stats at times. Outs were pretty precious, but putting pressure on NC and avoiding the ultimate whammy was bigger to me. Hell, we might have totally surprised them and maybe landed safe everywhere. Who knows? We were predictable though and grounded into the double play - two precious outs.
And although we tried the hit and run a few times with foul ball issues, we never stole straight up (even with fast guys on and a catcher that had only thrown two people out all year). I thought we should have taken a pitch and gambled. We didn't do much to stress NC out. But anyway, it is easy to be a hindsight hero. Still, these were my live action thoughts.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:30 am to Bayoufightingtiger
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We played not to lose and got embarrassed
Not sure what games you watched but let's not turn this into something it clearly wasn't. We lost 2-1 and 4-2 man that's hardly embarrassing especially considering the teams we played. I mean the other players and coaches on opposing teams at the CWS tend to be pretty good too every now and then right??
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:31 am to RightWingTiger
They are all to blame ...hence team sport , win as a team lose as a team
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 12:32 am
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:35 am to The Seaward
Yea we got embarrassed. It's funny how everyone is now saying we lost to two great teams. When before those teams were not given any credit. I have watched UCLA and NC play alot this year. LSU has way more talent and was playing really good up until arriving in Omaha. It is embarrassing when you continue to hit weak popups all game long and nothing is done about it. If Alex Rodriguez can be pinch hit for then why in the hell the bench was not used more. Did Foster even bat? Is Stevenson hitting his weight? When you have guys go 0-24 it's time to change up the order. We pissed away this tournament those teams we played barely did enough to best us. Oh yea and start a guy who has not pitched since May 24th and not even throw him an inning or 2 in the supers. I posted this last week concerned if Glenn would be ready and he wasn't. Try hit and run or laying it down when you a guy like Rhymes who kept trying to pull outside pitches and hitting weak ground balls and lazy popups. No in game adjustments were made. He stuck with his lineup and it blew up in his face.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 12:37 am
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:35 am to Big EZ Tiger
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In the CWS, you can toss stats at times. Outs were pretty precious, but putting pressure on NC and avoiding the ultimate whammy was bigger to me. Hell, we might have totally surprised them and maybe landed safe everywhere. Who knows? We were predictable though and grounded into the double play - two precious outs.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree here because at the risk of sounding hyperbolic, I honestly think bunting Bergman there would be possibly have been the worse baseball strategy call I've seen in my life. At least top 3.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:39 am to Bayoufightingtiger
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If Alex Rodriguez can be pinch hit for then why in the hell the bench was not used more. Did Foster even bat?
ARod is a mediocre player now. Prime ARod would never be pinch hit for, not even after an 0-20 stretch. You let your studs that have proven over time they are your best hitters swing the bat. Seems to me like you are overreacting and wanting to make decisions based on a minuscule sample
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:39 am to The Seaward
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I honestly think bunting Bergman there would be possibly have been the worse baseball strategy call I've seen in my life. At least top 3.
What would be #2, not bunting Rhymes in game 1?
Kidding...though no matter how awful in theory you think that strategy would have been, it most likely would have ended with a better result than what we got.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:42 am to Big EZ Tiger
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What would be #2, not bunting Rhymes in game 1? Kidding...though no matter how awful in theory you think that strategy would have been, it most likely would have ended with a better result than what we got.
So would have telling him to K on purpose. Doesn't mean it was a good strategy at the time.
I was actually liked Rhymes swinging away especially up 2-0. But I can see the case for bunting there. It was a close one IMO.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:46 am to Big EZ Tiger
If the coach can't get excited and be a leader then he needs to recruit kids who can. No one on this team took charge and got in anyone's face. I said it when Mahtook moved on, who would be that spark plug and light a fire. No excitement from anyone including the coaches. I hate to say this but go watch Mississippi State play and see the excitement and how loose these guys are. LSU is better than the bulldogs but LSU did not look prepared like they do.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 12:54 am to drizztiger
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You're a joke
drizztiger - baseball genius, internet badass
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 1:00 am
Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:08 am to Bootycall
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with this team, is unacceptable
Maybe you should offer your coaching services. Since you obviously think you can do better.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:30 am to Bayoufightingtiger
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When before those teams were not given any credit. I have watched UCLA and NC play alot this year. LSU has way more talent
Sorry but these statements make me wonder if you just started watching college baseball when the regionals started. If you have truly watched these two teams (especially UNC) play a lot or hell even payed half arse attention to college baseball then how can you possibly say that "those teams were not given any credit" or that "LSU has way more talent"?
How much more credit can a team receive than being seeded #1 (there's not a #0). UNC was basically #1 the entire season (until they finally lost a few late in the year) and Vandy and LSU jumped them in the polls. UCLA has been to the CWS 3 of the last 4 years, were ranked in the top 15 or so all year and and are in control of their side of the CWS tourney so they must have a couple good players. LSU doesn't have "way more talent" than any of the teams in the CWS. UNC likely has more Big League talent than any team in the country.
Everyone is pissed and expected more coming into Omaha but to act like we were beaten to a pulp by a couple of scrub teams, had no fight and no chance in either game is absurd. You seem to think that at some point UCLA and/or UNC were ahead by 10 runs and CPM should have made some drastic or desperate moves because otherwise we had no shot at winning? We had base runners in damn near every inning today and just never got the one timely hit we needed; if CPM pinch hit for RR or Ibarra he would have gone to Moore right? Well he sure came through in the clutch didn't he? Imagine the shite storm that would have followed up that move - which would have been deserved because you don't make those type of moves after having won 57 games with the guys in the lineup; you trust your best guys will produce. I didn't see the NC State coach making wholesale substitutions or pinch hitting for his main starters in tonight's game did you? Even though they were behind by an insurmountable 1 run - FIRE HIS arse HE SUCKS!!!!
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 1:38 am
Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:36 am to The Seaward
Crap shoots arse. It's PM for keeping Javi and not running his arse off last year. Javi should be fired before he boards a plane. Send his worthless arse back to south bend.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:53 am to Bootycall
Why would anybody blame Maineiri? He is only the head coach. How much control does the head coach have over any program?
Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:58 am to peopleschamp
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How much control does the head coach have over any program?
Funny this is only brought up when we lose.
No mention of it when they got to Omaha. Nothing about beating OU or coming out of the loser's bracket in the SEC tourny either.
I don't get why people like to troll about this stuff. It's really strange.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 2:00 am
Posted on 6/19/13 at 4:08 am to la_birdman
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Maybe you should offer your coaching services. Since you obviously think you can do better.
well what did pm do to offset his teams lack of offense,nothing.
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