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re: how much more optimistic/excited would you be with a different OC hire

Posted on 8/27/18 at 7:57 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 7:57 am to
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He didn't need to be smart, he saw the same thing everyone on the rant saw, that the players were having trouble with all the excessive pre snap motion that early in the season as they just hadn't caught on to it yet and it needed to be dumbed down, at least for the time being. He was smart enough to relay this to the thin skinned overly sensitive Canada who acted out like an angry 4 year old.


How did that work out for the genius O?

It’s kinda like going to Chip Kelly and saying “hey the players aren’t getting it so slow down and huddle up between snaps.”

O fundamentally didn’t understand the offense.

Also you’re taking him at his word after an embarrassing loss. Danny Etling said we were running plays from 2016 and Clapp said we had to get back to what we were doing in the spring. I didn’t look like we just removed the presbao motions.

I love How people keep saying we don’t need s genius and it’s not that hard. We sure do enjoy Dave Aranda dintvwe? Really hasn’t hurt having a genius on that side of the ball.
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 7:59 am
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14516 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:05 am to
I love how you Canada apologists like to make out the “meddling” to be more than it was - not motioning offensive lineman against Troy.

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Heading into the matchup with Troy, Orgeron wanted to simplify the offense with two freshmen starting along the right side of the offensive line.


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"I did step in last week for the first time. I wanted the guys to be in place when the ball was snapped," Orgeron said. "This is Matt's offense. He calls it, he runs it, he scripts the plays."
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62100 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:09 am to
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He didn't need to be smart


Welcome to the O era!
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
23291 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:14 am to
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Regardless if O works out or not... IMHO you need to seriously consider no longer supporting LSU football or athletics in general. Whether it goes horribly wrong or O wins big the next two years on his way to garnering an extension. Either way you are screwed. The Crimson evil empire is always recruiting for their bandwagon. Might as well you hop on board. Rollllll......


Where do you tards come from?

Hey, if you can’t handle an opinion you should probably not hang out on a message board.
I think I’ll keep going to all the games, home and away and bowls, thanks for your suggestion though.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
23291 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:27 am to
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You don't think Slinger is a better fit at LSU than Canada was? It's pretty simple and doesn't take a genius to figure out the dumbed down (I know my audience) point I was trying to make.


No one can answer that until we see Ensminger’s offense. How can you comment so strongly in favor of Ensminger, when you have no clue what it’s going to look like or how productive it’s going to be?
I didn’t want to keep Canada. And if you weren’t so fixated on trying to beat people down for their opinions, you would have understood that my opinion was Orgeron’s inablity to find a proven OC.
Ensminger is NOT a proven OC.

If you think Orgeron’s first and best choice was Steve, awesome. But don’t call anyone else dumb, because you can’t handle the fact that he was NOT the best option. He was the easy hire.
One thing, Ensminger still has a chance to prove it was a great decision. As I mentioned in my first post, it’s the only thing that has me uneasy...the unknown. That is a fact.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14516 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:31 am to
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Ensminger is NOT a proven OC.


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Former Ole Miss and Auburn head coach Tommy Tuberville views Ed Orgeron’s promotion of Steve Ensminger to LSU offensive coordinator in the highest possible regard.

“Steve Ensminger would be a hell of an offensive coordinator for Nick Saban,” Tuberville said in an interview with SEC Country. “He is exactly what Nick would look for. It ain’t about the offense you run, it’s about getting the most out of the players you have. I’m excited for LSU.”
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
23291 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:33 am to
Where’s Tommy at these days?
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14516 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:33 am to
It’s ignorant to say he’s unproven.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
23291 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:34 am to
Why? Show me where’s he’s proven?

I’m all in for seeing videos of his proven offenses and swinging my opinion. I’m not ashamed to admit I’m wrong.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14516 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:35 am to
You may not like the hire, but he’s been a successful OC for multiple schools. Unproven would be a first-year OC, which he clearly is not.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:35 am to
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It’s ignorant to say he’s unproven.
yea he was proven to be a disaster at auburn and he had jason Campbell. Al borges came in and Campbell put up really good numbers in route to an undefeated season.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
23291 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:36 am to
Show me the successful offenses he’s ran.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:36 am to
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You may not like the hire, but he’s been a successful OC for multiple schools.
where ?
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14516 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:37 am to
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The two worked together a total of seven seasons, starting at Texas A&M in 1994, when Tuberville was the Aggies’ defensive coordinator and Ensminger the offensive coordinator.

“He took a nothing offense at A&M, and we went undefeated,” Tuberville said of that 10-0-1 season.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
23291 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:37 am to
Dude, my opinion was there were more established OC’s around the country. I’m just looking for some evidence that he was the best option.
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
2892 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:37 am to
Just force him to use Cam Cameron's playbook
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:37 am to
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You may not like the hire, but he’s been a successful OC for multiple schools.

That’s quite a stretch. And he hasn’t held the job in 20 years. Im not sure many would call his time at Clemson “successful”
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
23291 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:38 am to
So 1994. Okay, that was a great example, I’ll admit that.
Since then?
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:38 am to
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The two worked together a total of seven seasons, starting at Texas A&M in 1994, when Tuberville was the Aggies’ defensive coordinator and Ensminger the offensive coordinator.

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1994
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14516 posts
Posted on 8/27/18 at 8:38 am to
He’s been working with offenses the entire 20 years. You guys act like he’s been selling cars.
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