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re: How much difference will the flat seam baseball make?
Posted on 1/27/15 at 5:28 am to southeasttiger113
Posted on 1/27/15 at 5:28 am to southeasttiger113
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Fans are setting themselves up for disappointment if they think that the gorilla ball era is going to make a comeback just because of a .015" difference in seam height. As much as I wish it wasn't the case, college baseball's going to stay pretty boring unless a miracle happens and they ramp the bat exit speed ratio back up to a little more dangerous level.
The NCAA isn't trying to bring gorilla ball back. They are only trying to add SOME offense back into the game.
If it brings us back to 60-70 homeruns per season I'd be pretty happy there, but I wish we could change the ball and tweak the bats and get back to 90-100 a season.
Also, the past 4 seasons have had less offense for all teams, but I still don't see the games as boring. Yes I'd like more runs and homers, but it's still LSU baseball and they'd have to frick the game up pretty bad for me not to be entertained by it.
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Posted on 1/27/15 at 6:19 am to upgrade
It was pretty boring when perfect contact was made on a bad pitch, and the ball died on the warning track or floated up in the gap for a long out.
It sounds like that will be much improved, which will make it good baseball
It sounds like that will be much improved, which will make it good baseball
Posted on 1/27/15 at 6:41 am to sassyLSU
quote:This is the dumbest thing I have read in my last few months of life on planet earth.
Posted by sassyLSU its going to ruin the game. its almost as dumb as the MLB proposal to disallow defenders to position to one side of the field against a dead pull hitter. You will not be able to throw breaking balls the way kids grew up learning how to do. it is the stupidest thing I have heard of in a few months of a life on planet earth. pathetic. Now that you cannot grip the baseball, all you will be able to do is learn a change up and throw a knuckleball. Knuckle ball coaches will be at a premium.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 7:25 am to TigerBlood17
This change will affect the game in many ways that previous posters have mentioned. The ball will have less "bite" on breaking balls but will have less drag allowing the ball to maintain much of its speed while passing through the strike zone. Pitchers will adapt, especially breaking ball pitchers. When I played back in the Stone Age (I was a pitcher with a few scholly offers) and got a ball with low seams, all I did was use my fingernails and pressed along the sides of the seams to get more grip plus gain extra 'drag', thus 'movement' on my pitches. Pitchers that throw heat will be cool with it as well because it maintains more speed through the strike zone, as previously mentioned, but admittedly will have less ball movement.
Hitters will like it, especially those that hit the curve, but those that can't catch up to a good fastball will have more difficulty as well.
I can't imagine this increasing the number of knuckleballers out there. The seams are flatter, thus less movement on the pitch and movement is what a knuckleballer thrives on, not speed.
As for me, I like this change. 2 to 1 ball games get old and the college game can use more offense without having to spice up the bats and put the pitchers in danger of being beaned. This is gonna be a fun year.
Hitters will like it, especially those that hit the curve, but those that can't catch up to a good fastball will have more difficulty as well.
I can't imagine this increasing the number of knuckleballers out there. The seams are flatter, thus less movement on the pitch and movement is what a knuckleballer thrives on, not speed.
As for me, I like this change. 2 to 1 ball games get old and the college game can use more offense without having to spice up the bats and put the pitchers in danger of being beaned. This is gonna be a fun year.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 8:24 am to Jtigers99
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I think the fact the pitchers can't grip the ball as well will impact the game even more than the balls flying further will. College baseball ERAs are a joke with the best pitchers having ERAs below 2. Pitchers can't grip the ball as well which will lead to more hittable pitches which will travel further. It should be a lot better.
This and the strike zone not being 6" off the plate. I understand that during gorilla ball the strike zone HAD to increase but when the bats were toned down to "major league" levels the strike zone should have mimicked the professional level as well. This would have helped over the last 3 years as well.
Hopefully now a combination of flatter seams and better strike zone will combine for a better game of baseball.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 8:28 am to sassyLSU
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its going to ruin the game.
How will this ruin the game? All this does is make a college baseball more similar to an MLB baseball. I dont see the pitchers in the majors having too much trouble throwing breaking balls? It may take a little bit for pitchers to adjust and learn how to handle the ball, but ruin the game?? C'mon man
Posted on 1/27/15 at 8:31 am to moneyg
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Home runs are nice, but I'll be most excited when a ball that is hammered into the gap is not run down. The problem wasn't a lack of HRs IMO. The problem was that pitchers were too often let off the hook when the batter put a good swing on the ball.
This. This will bring more offense to the game than more homeruns. Each inning will be more exciting with line drives into the gaps, more doubles and triples that are exciting to watch the game play out on the field.
So excited for LSU baseball to start...but not giving up hope on this basketball team either.
Sorry for the pumping.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 8:31 am to sassyLSU
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its almost as dumb as the MLB proposal to disallow defenders to position to one side of the field against a dead pull hitter.
I bet you only watch baseball between April and June, huh?
The balls that will be used in college baseball are pretty much consistent with those used in Minor League baseball. Seams are still higher than those used in Major League Baseball.
If anything, it will allow college pitchers to get used to a ball they will be throwing should they be drafted. It will also separate the guys that are really talented from the guys that are benefiting from the equipment.
And above all else, it should bring the home run/big hit back into the game. Its a critical part of baseball and has been since the game was invented. If you make a bad pitch, hitters should be able to crush it. You see a lot of long fly ball outs in college baseball thrown by guys that really dont have great stuff.
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Now that you cannot grip the baseball, all you will be able to do is learn a change up and throw a knuckleball. Knuckle ball coaches will be at a premium.
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 8:32 am
Posted on 1/27/15 at 8:38 am to sassyLSU
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its going to ruin the game.
its almost as dumb as the MLB proposal to disallow defenders to position to one side of the field against a dead pull hitter.
You will not be able to throw breaking balls the way kids grew up learning how to do. it is the stupidest thing I have heard of in a few months of a life on planet earth.
pathetic.
Now that you cannot grip the baseball, all you will be able to do is learn a change up and throw a knuckleball. Knuckle ball coaches will be at a premium.
Leave the trolling to LucasP
Posted on 1/27/15 at 8:39 am to Draconian Sanctions
Hasn't been talked about much but it will greatly affect curve balls by pitchers. The raised seems were much easier to spin and had more bite. That in itself will create more offense....
Posted on 1/27/15 at 8:43 am to sassyLSU
quote:Without question, the worst baseball post I have ever seen. Congrats
sassyLSU
Posted on 1/27/15 at 9:11 am to AlxTgr
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Knuckle ball coaches will be at a premium.
put Wakefield on the staff
Posted on 1/27/15 at 9:12 am to white_mj
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How will this ruin the game? All this does is make a college baseball more similar to an MLB baseball. I dont see the pitchers in the majors having too much trouble throwing breaking balls? It may take a little bit for pitchers to adjust and learn how to handle the ball, but ruin the game?? C'mon man
Agreed.
People bitched that the bats need to be more like what the pros use, so why not use a ball more like the pros use?
The hitters had too much advantage with super bats, time to take super breaking ball away from the pitchers.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 9:15 am to Topwater Trout
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At Alex Box it will make a difference. It won't be noticeable in Omaha.
I hope it makes a difference at Omaha. That new park has ruined the CWS.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 11:16 am to atltiger6487
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The lack of offense over the last few years has made the game very tough to watch.
I agree with this statement however it has been great to see the emergence of dominant pitchers like Gausman, Nola, Coleman, Ott, etc. Wouldn't mind seeing how their stats would've been with this new ball...
Posted on 1/27/15 at 11:21 am to LSUChamp06
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I hope it makes a difference at Omaha. That new park has ruined the CWS.
It really has made the CWS worse. Not many teams are playing on fields that size all year and it ruins big hitting teams. You have to small ball to win there now.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 11:22 am to WackyChris
Only NOLA pitched more than 1 year in the BBCOR era from your list.
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 11:23 am
Posted on 1/27/15 at 11:24 am to ell_13
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Only NOLA pitched more than 1 year in the BBCOR error from your list.
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 11:30 am
Posted on 1/27/15 at 11:25 am to LSUTygerFan
Leave me alone!
It started in 2010. So that was what 2 years for Gausman?
It started in 2010. So that was what 2 years for Gausman?
Posted on 1/27/15 at 11:25 am to sassyLSU
quote:This post is terrible
its going to ruin the game.
its almost as dumb as the MLB proposal to disallow defenders to position to one side of the field against a dead pull hitter.
You will not be able to throw breaking balls the way kids grew up learning how to do. it is the stupidest thing I have heard of in a few months of a life on planet earth.
pathetic.
Now that you cannot grip the baseball, all you will be able to do is learn a change up and throw a knuckleball. Knuckle ball coaches will be at a premium.
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