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re: How Far Away Is LSU From Championship Game Level?

Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by Tooncesridesagain
Member since Jan 2015
615 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:37 pm to
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oregon


Yep. That was three seasons ago. The defense was one of the best LSU has ever fielded. This years squad was shredded by the ground and pound of Arkansas, the spread of Auburn and Miss State. LSU could be good next year. It depends on how much Harris develops.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:37 pm to
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Maybe simple is better at the college leve


I believe it is at the qb position. The coaches just dont have enough practice time (20 hours a week)to perfect an offensive scheme as complex as the prostyle.
Dual Threat qbs have rarely gone through reads in highschool and we are asking them to not only go through progressions but do it while taking 3,5, and 7 step drops.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76739 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:41 pm to
So it may not be a QB issue as much as the QBs aren't right for this complex system. Which is what I think you've been saying all along.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
6003 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:44 pm to
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We had a Qb last year and didn't sniff the national title.


Mehh.. You guys seem to be looking at W-L and not taking into account how close we were.

We stop bama on that last drive in 2012, I firmly believe we play/win NC.

OBJ doesn't muff that punt against Georgia in 2013, and we play defense on that last Ole Miss drive (or Mett doesn't go full retard) we might have won the west.

But 2013 was a Beckwith away from being at least 12-1.

We're close.

Several lucky breaks plus Jennings..
Or 2 lucky breaks plus a decent QB.
Posted by tig3r
Monroe, La
Member since Jun 2010
185 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:46 pm to
We are way behind the curve now and there is no catching up. Having the recruiting success and outstanding players will not produce a winning national team without the coaching and play scheme to do it. We do not have that. We will not have a 10 win season again in this decade. We are on the decline...slow but sure. IMHO...I hope I am wrong.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:47 pm to
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We need to chunk Miles and his disgusting offense; put in Harris; hire a decent DC. 


Lsu has 9 top 5 finishes in our entire history. Miles has 33% of those. Lsu has 11 ten win seasons in our entire history and Miles has 7 of them.4 of the last 5 seasons we finished in the top 15 and 2 of those seasons we finished in the top 8.miles has played for the national title every 4th year and wins the sec west every 3rd year.
And you want him fired?
I hate our ignorant and entitled fan base.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30671 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:48 pm to
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We are there, just subtract AJ.



It's a bit more than that, bro.


Something needs to be done about the early departures. I don't buy into the "Les sells the three and done to recruits."

We have one linebacker.
We have a mess at quarterback with no sure remedy in sight.
Dline is not performing.
Special teams got Malveto'd.
It all boils down to the head coach. I hope he coaches his arse off next year.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:50 pm to
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Having the recruiting success and outstanding players will not produce a winning national team without the coaching and play scheme to do it


Its been proven our scheme and coaching works fine. This scheme and coaching just gave lsu its most successful 10 year stretch in lsu history.
quote:

We will not have a 10 win season again in this decade.


Wow. Are you serious? We just had 4 straight top 15 finishes.miles has 7 of our 11 ten win seasons.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:52 pm to
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So it may not be a QB issue as much as the QBs aren't right for this complex system. Which is what I think you've been saying all along. 

I said in my first in this thread that we have to stop recruiting dual threat qbs to run our prostyle offense.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20933 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:57 pm to
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1 HC 1 QB



Or ability of OC to properly run an offense without head coaching interference.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:01 pm to
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ability of OC to properly run an offense without head coaching interference.


Another rant myth that has zero evidence to be proven true. During timeouts i see Kragthorpe talking to AJ. Kragthorpe is on the radio with Cam.not Miles.
Posted by cuyahoga tiger
NE Ohio via Tangipahoa
Member since Nov 2011
5872 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:08 pm to
Coaches that recruit AND develop quality players in a sound scheme.
Posted by cuyahoga tiger
NE Ohio via Tangipahoa
Member since Nov 2011
5872 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:08 pm to
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 10:09 pm
Posted by zoom
everywhere
Member since Apr 2013
3579 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:09 pm to
25 to the 86th power
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76739 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:10 pm to
Your post depresses me
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:15 pm to
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What do you think?
quote:

DeltaDoc


I think you are in the running for one of the top 10 worst posters on this site, and top 5 most knee jerk/over reacting posters. I'm not sure why you call yourself a doc. Clearly, after reading your posts on here for months, you don't have the intellectual capacity to be a doc.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:18 pm to
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tig3r


good god....I swear there are some real idiots on this site...I know we all are aware of that...but posts like this....you have a coach that has coached in two fricking national championship games in 10 years, yet you have absolute complete idiots on here saying we don't have the coaching.......I just can't imagine the intelligence level and IQ of some of you irl...seriously.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75347 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:18 pm to
4 years
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30075 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:20 pm to
this game only shows me how bad our qb situation is. Neither of them are even close to caliber of QBs in this game
Posted by Tigahbader
Nunya
Member since Oct 2014
767 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:26 pm to
Unfortunate but true!
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