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re: How does Joe Alleva still have a job?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:00 am to phideauxlsu
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:00 am to phideauxlsu
Guys Im sure there is plenty of blame to go around and Louisiana politics has been around for many years. Does Alleva not understand this?
And even if Jimbo gave his word,you have to be better than this. Its never a done deal until the paper is signed? Did they not consider that FSu may counter offer and that Jimbo might just be playing the situation to get a raise?
Sometimes there has to be a fall guy right or wrong for the betterment of the entity. I was hoping to hearsomethning like, he is a masterful marketing guy and has brought in millions more than most AD's could or at least something tangible.
And even if Jimbo gave his word,you have to be better than this. Its never a done deal until the paper is signed? Did they not consider that FSu may counter offer and that Jimbo might just be playing the situation to get a raise?
Sometimes there has to be a fall guy right or wrong for the betterment of the entity. I was hoping to hearsomethning like, he is a masterful marketing guy and has brought in millions more than most AD's could or at least something tangible.
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Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:00 am to monsterballads
When are we going to be able to complete the forward pass?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:04 am to RRTiger
Pls dont hijack the post. we are talking about Joe Alleva.
Weve hashed thru why or why not miles should go daily in here.
Weve hashed thru why or why not miles should go daily in here.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:07 am to LSUANDY25
From his attitude at the presser, I would believe that he was forced into the decision.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:09 am to RB10
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Because F. King Alexander is the one to blame for this whole situation, from what I've read.
I'm no Alleva fan, but the fact that Louisiana politics got involved in the LSU head coaching situation is not a good thing for the program, no matter how you try to spin it.
Yep.
Alleva was handcuffed on this one by both ends, the boosters and King.
He still probably didn't handle it very well, but I don't blame him completely.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:14 am to BeeFense5
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What are his fireable offenses? This should be good
A 3 year downward trend
A painfully obvious inability to beat most SEC west competition the past 3 seasons
An offense that is consistently terrible
Inability to develop a QB
Inability to recruit depth at any positions outside of RB, WR, FB and DB
Pathetic special teams
Blatantly obvious lack of in-game adjustments to what defenses do
Undisciplined, heavily penalized teams year in and year out
That oughtta do it
ETA - sorry for contributing to hijack. My .02 on Alleva is that he's not fired b/c he wasn't the one who ultimately made the decision to bring Miles back. Some things were out of his control. He has put LSU in a tough spot though.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 11:18 am
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:16 am to kbro
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Inability to recruit depth at any positions outside of RB, WR, FB and DB
This is stupid. He's having depth problems in the front 7 for the first time in 11 years and almost everyone here blames Chavis and Brick for that.
I agree with the rest.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:17 am to lsuson
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How the hell does LM still keep his head coaching job with this team??
It's his team. He recruited every player on this team.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:19 am to LSUANDY25
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Well thats not what came out of his mouth. Is he a liar as well?
What was he suppose to say after all of that?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:19 am to LSUANDY25
His innocence in the matter is not material to you?
I believe he still has a job because F. King Alexander is a moral person. A moral person does not do the deed then let somebody else take the punishment... not that anybody deserves punishment, anyway.
I believe he still has a job because F. King Alexander is a moral person. A moral person does not do the deed then let somebody else take the punishment... not that anybody deserves punishment, anyway.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:19 am to LSUANDY25
quote:Obviously not
has to beat Alabama to keep his job.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:20 am to LSUANDY25
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Did they not consider that FSu may counter offer and that Jimbo might just be playing the situation to get a raise?
You got a link to Jimbo getting a raise? I'm not aware of FSU doint anything on their side.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:21 am to BayouBengals03
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Alleva was handcuffed on this one by both ends, the boosters and King.
Isnt that part of the AD's job from time to time? How do u get LSU in this position? And if he was forced to make this decision by the President against his wiil, doesnt that mean he was overriden? If thats the case again why not just let him go.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:21 am to LSUANDY25
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Well thats not what came out of his mouth. Is he a liar as well?
Stahp!!!!
Do you really want to ask how many of the things that have come out of Les Miles mouth have been accurate? I mean, Miles said for four weeks straight that he expected Brandon Harris to get some snaps in the upcoming game, never happened.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:23 am to LSUANDY25
We needed this new thread
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:29 am to LSUANDY25
Alleva was hired to do a job, KA stopped him from doing it. Cam was hired to do a job Miles stopped him from doing it.
Who should get fired here? Hmmmm
Who should get fired here? Hmmmm
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:29 am to Choupique19
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Les Miles mouth have been accurate?
Whoa. Miles is quoted all the time and theres a big difference between football talk and addressing the Natl media about keeping a 11 year coach. Dignity comes to mind.
Lets keep it on point.
If this recruiting class blows up and some of these guys end up at bama Ole Miss or A&M. I wouldnt ask the question if i wasnt looking to learn something here.
Normally u can just follow the money and see whats really going on. But it seems to me LSU has more to lose by keeping him vs Terminating him.
Does no one know the answer and can only bring up the coach. They decided to keep Miles that decision is done for now. Why keep the AD is the question? What has he done here to survive this?
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 11:32 am
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:36 am to LSUANDY25
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He has to make 1 big decision every 3-4 years and this is the skill set?
Do you really even know what an AD does?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:39 am to LSUANDY25
Yes yes let's fire the guy that tried to make LSU better and keep the one making us worse, Loisiana logic
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:40 am to Rex
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His innocence in the matter is not material to you?
I believe he still has a job because F. King Alexander is a moral person. A moral person does not do the deed then let somebody else take the punishment.
Yes, it is very much so. Im all for honor integrity and morality at universities. Ive always believed LSU stood for more of this than most.
Thats an interesting twist. That the president himself put LSU in this position and found a yes man to take the blame and say something he didnt really believe. Most presidents would never allow themselves to get caught up in the actual mudpuddle and would keep their distance. Thats why u have an AD, hes supposed to be a buffer.
WOW, I hope youre wrong but that does make sense. CYA is always an angle.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 11:50 am
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