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How does Delpit still get first-round grades even with his struggles this season?

Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:16 pm
Posted by PhillyFan1994
Member since Sep 2012
2032 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:16 pm
A new CBS mock draft came out and Delpit was projected as the #16 overall pick and the 2nd Safety off the board.

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Everyone here is well aware of Delpit's tackling issues this year so I cant seem to understand why he has stayed relatively high on draft boards. People have been lamenting his play all year long but I still see consistent first round grades. Compare this to Arden Key who, after his sophomore year, was projected by some to potentially be the #1 overall pick but fell all the way to the 3rd round after a lackluster junior season. Why hasnt this type of fall happened for Delpit? Is it because the safety class this year is just very weak? Or did he show so much last season that scouts are willing to look past his struggles this year?


DISCLAIMER: This mock is actually from before this past weekend.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 12:17 pm
Posted by GeauxTigahs5
Member since Jan 2017
148 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:18 pm to
Drafting isn’t just about how a player looks on film. Most of it is about potential. Delpit has the potential of a Pro Bowl safety. He definitely hasn’t lived up to that this year, but he does have the potential. Which is why he will most likely be a 1st round pick
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
10802 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:20 pm to
Super athlete.. incredible first two seasons here.. paired with our reputation of DBs in the nfl.. he’ll go top half of the first round
Posted by PhillyFan1994
Member since Sep 2012
2032 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Drafting isn’t just about how a player looks on film. Most of it is about potential. Delpit has the potential of a Pro Bowl safety. He definitely hasn’t lived up to that this year, but he does have the potential. Which is why he will most likely be a 1st round pick



So did Arden Key not have the potential of a Pro Bowl OLB? What caused him to slip so much after his junior year?
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12978 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:23 pm to
been dealing with a bum ankle, ankle issues never heal in a few weeks especially when you are still having to sprint and cut on it
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
10802 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:23 pm to
Arden key had way bigger issues than delpit has. His off the field BS caused him to slide down
Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
6568 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:24 pm to
His workouts in the postseason for the scouts will be key for him
Posted by wildcat81tiger86
Member since Feb 2014
1002 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:27 pm to
The scouts watch all the film.
They know that he is playing hurt and also playing out of position compared to last year.

Grant is not a FS/deep safety.

So the pros are taking all that into their evaluation.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123894 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

How does Delpit still get first-round grades even with his struggles this season?
How did Fournette still get first-round grades even with his struggles?
Posted by PhillyFan1994
Member since Sep 2012
2032 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

The scouts watch all the film. 
They know that he is playing hurt and also playing out of position compared to last year. 

Grant is not a FS/deep safety. 


Wouldnt his tackling issues matter more as a SS? And if the scouts can excuse his poor play as a result of injury why cant the fans?
Posted by PhillyFan1994
Member since Sep 2012
2032 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

How did Fournette still get first-round grades even with his struggles?





Well I mean Fournette was clearly hurt and sat out numerous games because of it. Also, I dont dislike Delpit or hope he doesnt go 1st round. Just trying to understand the logic here.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 12:36 pm
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6567 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:31 pm to
Cuz he's not 100%
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66485 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:33 pm to
He is absolutely better closer to the line.

I think We’ve had to play him deeper this year because of Harris going down.
Posted by tigerclaw10
My house
Member since Jun 2010
4200 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:35 pm to
Delpit showed last year his ceiling is very high and scouts are probably taking in to account that the kid might actually be hurt. We hear about these guys playing through injury every spring when the season is over.

I’m not sure if he is hurt, but I don’t think we would be seeing the plays where it seems as if he’s giving minimal effort if he wasn’t banged up
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:38 pm to
Mock drafts are not made by GMs and player personnel directors. They’re made by analysts and reporters. Worthless.

That said, Delpit has the tools and skills. He was the best safety in the country last year.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:38 pm to
He is a great talent that has 2 years and even some games this year of top end film. He was projected so high preseason that even if he drops he will still be a first round pick in mocks. Ankle injuries need time to heal. Tough to get them back to 100 percent during the season.
Posted by Lsu101205
Atlanta, GA
Member since Jan 2014
3078 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:39 pm to
Same way Daniel Jones went 6th last year.
Posted by PhillyFan1994
Member since Sep 2012
2032 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:40 pm to
What I dont understand is on this topic all I see is posts from fans being so understanding that Delpit is playing hurt and that is what is causing his issues. But in the game when he misses a tackle it is all "TAKE #7 FROM HIM" "WTF HAPPENED TO HIM?" "HE ISNT EVEN TRYING OUT THERE."
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

What I dont understand is on this topic all I see is posts from fans being so understanding that Delpit is playing hurt and that is what is causing his issues. But in the game when he misses a tackle it is all "TAKE #7 FROM HIM" "WTF HAPPENED TO HIM?" "HE ISNT EVEN TRYING OUT THERE."


If I had to guess those two statements are not coming from the same group of people.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4303 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:49 pm to
In an NFL scheme he wouldn't be asked to be around the line as much. We're a bit weak up front so Delpit is in the box a lot.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 12:50 pm
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