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re: How did Manziel Look Against Gators?

Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11912 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:12 pm to
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23-21 is hardly "domination"

Keep digging that hole, bud. A good point is down there somewhere.
Posted by AeroAg2012
Member since Sep 2012
83 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:13 pm to
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It's obvious you didn't watch this football game




Actually, I did. Y'all couldn't move the ball inside the red zone at all. All of those yards were between the 20s.

Did you happen to watch the LA Tech game? Did you see the 175 yards in penalties? The 3 DBs and starting Linebacker sidelined for the game?

Or did you just read the final score and immediately write this week off?
Posted by lwlsu96
Member since Oct 2011
5404 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:13 pm to
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The nation's top scoring offense on the road, in a game where he amassed an SEC record 576 yards, or Ole Miss, who have a top-50 offense and got 6 bonehead turnovers given to them and yet still lost?



That was hardly a road game. 2-3 turnovers will = a loss to us. Just sayin
Posted by BRUNNIN4
CenTex
Member since Mar 2010
3127 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:14 pm to
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Did you happen to watch the LA Tech game? Did you see the 175 yards in penalties? The 3 DBs and starting Linebacker sidelined for the game?

Or did you just read the final score and immediately write this week off?

You know what I watched? A team struggle to put away LaTech.
Posted by AeroAg2012
Member since Sep 2012
83 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:14 pm to
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Yeah, that's why we were 14th in scoring defense going into this weekend, right?


Temporal relationships don't mean a lot to you, do they? In the context of the conversation it was pretty clear that I meant going into the LA Tech game where half of our defensive backfield was out of the game.
Posted by PrivateJoker
BR
Member since Jun 2012
817 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:15 pm to
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Connor Shaw: 910 yds, 9 TD 4 INT, 69% Completions
76 rushes for 280 yds (3.7 YPC), 1 TD

Johnny Manziel: 1680 yds, 14 TD 3 INT, 67+% Completions
91 rushes for 676 yds (7.4 YPC), 10 TD

You think you might be a little overconfident in that game plan?



Connor Shaw competes within his team for plays with Marcus Lattimore, one of the best backs in the country. LSU limited him to 35 yards and kept Shaw in check. TAMU does not even have a chance at the running game potential SC had. Manziel is obviously good, but he is facing the best of the best when it comes to defense this weekend, and TAMU will get a good welcome to the SEC.

Remember the Cotton bowl recently...
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
21242 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:15 pm to
I watched it. Boring. La tech blew their chance to tie the game. Your team blew a, what, 27 pt. lead?
Posted by AeroAg2012
Member since Sep 2012
83 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:16 pm to
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2-3 turnovers will = a loss to us. Just sayin


I actually agree with this. Johnny and the rest of the offense will have to be on their A-game. They didn't give up a turnover to Florida's defense, so we'll see if they can produce similar results back in the confines of Kyle Field.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31913 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:17 pm to
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Notice that Florida was also our first game


Ahhh, the "it was our first game" excuse.

Florida was the only real test JM has faced.

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If you don't think he is significantly better now than he was then, you're kidding yourself.


I never said he wasn't a good player. However, I think you're trying to make him to be something he's not.

Did you notice anything about those teams he's faced (with the exception of Florida)? They all have one thing in common.

This post was edited on 10/15/12 at 8:22 pm
Posted by PrivateJoker
BR
Member since Jun 2012
817 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:17 pm to
We moved dominated a defensive line considered to be the best in the country by some. A&M does not have that kind of front, and all it takes it for our offense to mesh just a little better and it might get ugly. LSU should have blown SC out.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:19 pm to
I expect that a DC with the experience of Chavis and the quality of players at his dispoal will come up with a few things that a freshman has never seen, even on tape. Johnny Football will make at least one or two critical mistakes with the ball, just like we saw last week.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:20 pm to
One player isn't going to beat Lsu

He may get some big plays, but he'll be effectively shut down by the Lsu defense
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11912 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:20 pm to
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Y'all couldn't move the ball inside the red zone at all. All of those yards were between the 20s

Ok, let me ask you this, do you think your defense is better than that of USCe?

Also, do you believe Manz has faced a better defense than that of LSU?
Posted by AeroAg2012
Member since Sep 2012
83 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:22 pm to
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I watched it. Boring. La tech blew their chance to tie the game. Your team blew a, what, 27 pt. lead?


They actually never trailed in that game, even though we were missing our best receiver and half of our defensive backfield, but ok.
Posted by Too Frat To Care
PMAC
Member since Mar 2011
6939 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:23 pm to
It's Louisiana Tech. Shut the frick up.
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11912 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:24 pm to
I enjoy it when someone points out a "weakness" which is not in fact a weakness, then when called on it they ignore it till it goes away.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:25 pm to
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even though we were missing our best receiver and half of our defensive backfield, but ok.


Cry me a river

Lsu is missing:

Mathieu
Tahj jones
K. Alexander
Hurst
Faulk
Williford
Blue

I'm probably forgetting someone
Posted by BRTIIGER58
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
470 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:25 pm to
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AeroAg2012


It's pretty obvious your desperate for a little respect for your Aggies. Here's a tip....Don't give up 57 points to La Tech and you may gain some cred in the Big Boy League you play in now.
Posted by AeroAg2012
Member since Sep 2012
83 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:26 pm to
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Did you notice anything about those teams he's faced (with the exception of Florida)? They all have one thing in common.


You want me to say they they're the worst defensive teams in the country and that yards against them don't count. Even though Johnny sat for much of those games that he still put up gaudy stats.

We shall see, but it's not like A&M is only Johnny Manziel. Ben Malena, Mike Evans, and Ryan Swope are all playmakers and Trey Williams, Christine Michael, and Thomas Johnson aren't too far behind.

As for A&M's guys up front, I challenge you to find a pair of offensive tackles as talented as Luke Joeckel and Jake Matthews on any team in the country. They're both projected 1st round picks.
Posted by PortCityTiger82
Shreveport, LA
Member since Nov 2010
6791 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 8:27 pm to
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We had double their total yardage


If I'm thinking right we had four times their yardage until the fourth quarter when they went into desperation mode. I believe they had a hundred something and we had four hundred something at one point
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